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You read that right; Roid didn't even hide his true intentions to Abraham yet he chose to delude himself into believing Roid would somehow change. What a senile old fool.
Had DiBella still been at HBO in late 2000, maybe he could've talked some sense into Abraham and told Roid to ***** off. Who else was going to grossly overpay Roid for his garbage mandatories or tolerate his behaviour??
...Most embarrassingly, Roid would give a final bizarre, previously unheard-of reason for avoiding the best opposition;
Asked why his resume does not include some names that should be on it, Jones said, "I had my reasons for doing what I was doing. I made (boxing) so delightful that you didn’t need to watch me fight another 'name' fighter. I could fight anybody."
???
...Back to the Collins duck; ahead of Roid's gift opportunity against Joe Calzaghe on HBO ppv in 2008, HOF trainer Freddy Roach would also confirm Jones avoided his super-middleweight rivals Collins & Liles;
Calzaghe-Jones and an era in judgment
By Eric Raskin
14 Jul 2008
Trainer Freddie Roach, who has worked with such elite modern fighters as Hopkins and Manny Pacquiao, is one observer who doesn't believe a Jones win over Calzaghe is enough to elevate him above his peers, largely because Jones was reluctant to face some of his most dangerous foes during his prime.
"I always felt he ducked some fighters out there," Roach told ESPN.com. "When he was at super middleweight, both Frankie Liles and Steve Collins, two fighters I trained who had world titles -- they both wanted to fight him but he wouldn't fight either of them. I mean, probably Roy Jones would have beaten them, but Frankie did beat him twice in the amateurs, so you never know. At super middleweight, Jones never tried to unify the titles, and that really made me not such a Roy Jones fan, to be honest. To be known as the best, I think you need to beat everybody."
In a 2013 podcast, Liles, now a trainer and one of the most down-to-earth, honest, and respected people in boxing, K-1, & mma - i.e. literally the exact opposite of Roid Jones - also mentioned Roid's refusal to box him. (Loudunce's lies about Roid trying to fight Liles - which contradict his own *****ing Don King excuse - have already been completely debunked in other threads by general zod);
...Roid's 50/50 purse split with Calzaghe - a deal which Calzaghe's former promoter Allegedly stated he could've easily tipped in Calzaghe's favour - was obviously something shameless Roid would've never dreamed of sharing in his prime. However, Calzaghe didn't possess anywhere near the greed or arrogance Roid did.
Note: The deluded Loudunce fanboy narrative;
LOL. That 12 round bltch-slapping Calzaghe gave Roid must still hurt...
And in another interview before the Calzaghe bout, Roid admits he could've made any fight yet when put on the spot regarding Collins he backtracks instantly. LOL;
I didn't expect a white ass mother*****er in here
Sunday Tribune
28 Sep 2008
Was it the case too that you couldn’t get a fight?
“I could get all the fights I want. That’s no problem. There are always guys out there.”
Like Steve Collins?
“Well, I don’t know about that.”
You know him right?
“I heard him talking a little bit.”
About wanting to fight you?
“Yeah.”
And you never took him up on it?
“I ain’t wasting my time coming all the way over there to see him, to fight him. He talked all he wanted but if he wanted to fight Roy Jones jnr, then he comes, he takes time out, he asks me. Not the other way around. That’s not the way it works.”
This is exactly what Collins did. Roid's excuses are literally nonsensical.
His comments are worthless. There's just no truth or logic in any of Roid's excuses. He's a proven pathological liar and his word means nothing.
Out of all the big fights Roid avoided, Collins was the easiest to make, and a victory over Collins was potentially Roid's second-best career win. Yet Roid still wouldn't take it.
That "speaks volumes".
For some reason HBO eventually gave the now-broke Roid - an embarrassment to the sport by this point - a financial lifeline and eventually hired him as a commentator again in 2011. Mystifying.
2013; Full Circle
The criticism for Roid's ducking & cherrypicking obviously never went away and by 2013 the talk came back to a Steve Collins fight after a Dec 2012 interview with ATG Radio in which Collins spoke of his disappointment in being ducked by Roid;
A prickly faux-incredulous Roid would apparently respond with a typical empty rant. Unfortunately for Roid, Collins will never let him get away with running his mouth;
Facile talk of a Collins-Jones seniors matchup would then begin to make headlines.
...During Sky Sports' Gloves Are Off super-middleweight episode in May 2013, Roid then made viewers cringe when he blurted out a brand new excuse for ducking Collins;
Claiming the exact opposite of reality, compulsive liar Roid stated "I was a giver. If you wanted it, I gave it to you. He [Collins] say he want it. What am I supposed to do, run? That's not in me (chuckles).", nonsensical rhetoric which Collins immediately called him out on, asking Roid then why didn't the fight ever happen between 89-99 and clearly stating in plain *****ing English "you were the one who could've make the decision for it to happen.", which Roid didn't disagree with.
Seemingly forgetting about his "7 figure offer" lie to Collins, Roid replied by bizzarely giving an absurd new excuse for ducking Collins in the form of Collins "having an issue with Reggie Johnson." LOL. WTF? Even Collins was thrown off by such a nonsensical excuse (timestamped);
"Absolutely laughable."
...The only time Roid was ever a "giver" was when his spindly featherweight butt-buddy Derrick 'Ass Smoke' Gainer was bent over infront of him.
Note: Upon seeing how this absurd new excuse completely contradicts and exposes the "7 figures" nonsense as a lie, *****-for-brains dishonest fanboy Fat Robert embarrassingly invented his own pathetic explanation [lie] off the top of his head to hopelessly try and rationalize Roid's lies and reconcile the Loudunce Fantasy World with reality;
"Absolutely laughable."
No, Roid didn't make a mistake.
No, he didn't rectify it at a later date.
You just made that up you *****ing clown.
And even if he did mean to say Calzaghe - which he obviously didn't - that would make no *****ing sense either.
As usual, Roid simply lied through his teeth.
In fact Roid lied his way through that whole episode.
This stuff literally has to be spelled out to Loudunce. Over and over. For years. And still he can't get it through his thick skull. He really is that *****ing dumb & deluded. A complete waste of time - only worth ridiculing and bullying.
...As always, Roid again priced himself out of a Collins fight by parroting his usual rhetoric of wanting an unrealistic payday to "make it worth my time" etc...whilst boxing for the Mickey Mouse "World Boxing Union" (German Version) title in Eastern Europe.
At the end of a Sky Sports News interview which has disappeared from YouTube, Collins admitted it wasn't going to happen and the talk eventually fizzled out.
You read that right; Roid didn't even hide his true intentions to Abraham yet he chose to delude himself into believing Roid would somehow change. What a senile old fool.
Had DiBella still been at HBO in late 2000, maybe he could've talked some sense into Abraham and told Roid to ***** off. Who else was going to grossly overpay Roid for his garbage mandatories or tolerate his behaviour??
...Most embarrassingly, Roid would give a final bizarre, previously unheard-of reason for avoiding the best opposition;
Asked why his resume does not include some names that should be on it, Jones said, "I had my reasons for doing what I was doing. I made (boxing) so delightful that you didn’t need to watch me fight another 'name' fighter. I could fight anybody."
???
...Back to the Collins duck; ahead of Roid's gift opportunity against Joe Calzaghe on HBO ppv in 2008, HOF trainer Freddy Roach would also confirm Jones avoided his super-middleweight rivals Collins & Liles;
Calzaghe-Jones and an era in judgment
By Eric Raskin
14 Jul 2008
Trainer Freddie Roach, who has worked with such elite modern fighters as Hopkins and Manny Pacquiao, is one observer who doesn't believe a Jones win over Calzaghe is enough to elevate him above his peers, largely because Jones was reluctant to face some of his most dangerous foes during his prime.
"I always felt he ducked some fighters out there," Roach told ESPN.com. "When he was at super middleweight, both Frankie Liles and Steve Collins, two fighters I trained who had world titles -- they both wanted to fight him but he wouldn't fight either of them. I mean, probably Roy Jones would have beaten them, but Frankie did beat him twice in the amateurs, so you never know. At super middleweight, Jones never tried to unify the titles, and that really made me not such a Roy Jones fan, to be honest. To be known as the best, I think you need to beat everybody."
In a 2013 podcast, Liles, now a trainer and one of the most down-to-earth, honest, and respected people in boxing, K-1, & mma - i.e. literally the exact opposite of Roid Jones - also mentioned Roid's refusal to box him. (Loudunce's lies about Roid trying to fight Liles - which contradict his own *****ing Don King excuse - have already been completely debunked in other threads by general zod);
...Roid's 50/50 purse split with Calzaghe - a deal which Calzaghe's former promoter Allegedly stated he could've easily tipped in Calzaghe's favour - was obviously something shameless Roid would've never dreamed of sharing in his prime. However, Calzaghe didn't possess anywhere near the greed or arrogance Roid did.
Note: The deluded Loudunce fanboy narrative;
Joe was so desperate to get Roy's name in his resume, he agreed to give him 50% of everything.
And in another interview before the Calzaghe bout, Roid admits he could've made any fight yet when put on the spot regarding Collins he backtracks instantly. LOL;
I didn't expect a white ass mother*****er in here
Sunday Tribune
28 Sep 2008
Was it the case too that you couldn’t get a fight?
“I could get all the fights I want. That’s no problem. There are always guys out there.”
Like Steve Collins?
“Well, I don’t know about that.”
You know him right?
“I heard him talking a little bit.”
About wanting to fight you?
“Yeah.”
And you never took him up on it?
“I ain’t wasting my time coming all the way over there to see him, to fight him. He talked all he wanted but if he wanted to fight Roy Jones jnr, then he comes, he takes time out, he asks me. Not the other way around. That’s not the way it works.”
This is exactly what Collins did. Roid's excuses are literally nonsensical.
His comments are worthless. There's just no truth or logic in any of Roid's excuses. He's a proven pathological liar and his word means nothing.
Out of all the big fights Roid avoided, Collins was the easiest to make, and a victory over Collins was potentially Roid's second-best career win. Yet Roid still wouldn't take it.
That "speaks volumes".
For some reason HBO eventually gave the now-broke Roid - an embarrassment to the sport by this point - a financial lifeline and eventually hired him as a commentator again in 2011. Mystifying.
2013; Full Circle
The criticism for Roid's ducking & cherrypicking obviously never went away and by 2013 the talk came back to a Steve Collins fight after a Dec 2012 interview with ATG Radio in which Collins spoke of his disappointment in being ducked by Roid;
A prickly faux-incredulous Roid would apparently respond with a typical empty rant. Unfortunately for Roid, Collins will never let him get away with running his mouth;
Facile talk of a Collins-Jones seniors matchup would then begin to make headlines.
...During Sky Sports' Gloves Are Off super-middleweight episode in May 2013, Roid then made viewers cringe when he blurted out a brand new excuse for ducking Collins;
Claiming the exact opposite of reality, compulsive liar Roid stated "I was a giver. If you wanted it, I gave it to you. He [Collins] say he want it. What am I supposed to do, run? That's not in me (chuckles).", nonsensical rhetoric which Collins immediately called him out on, asking Roid then why didn't the fight ever happen between 89-99 and clearly stating in plain *****ing English "you were the one who could've make the decision for it to happen.", which Roid didn't disagree with.
Seemingly forgetting about his "7 figure offer" lie to Collins, Roid replied by bizzarely giving an absurd new excuse for ducking Collins in the form of Collins "having an issue with Reggie Johnson." LOL. WTF? Even Collins was thrown off by such a nonsensical excuse (timestamped);
"Absolutely laughable."
...The only time Roid was ever a "giver" was when his spindly featherweight butt-buddy Derrick 'Ass Smoke' Gainer was bent over infront of him.
Note: Upon seeing how this absurd new excuse completely contradicts and exposes the "7 figures" nonsense as a lie, *****-for-brains dishonest fanboy Fat Robert embarrassingly invented his own pathetic explanation [lie] off the top of his head to hopelessly try and rationalize Roid's lies and reconcile the Loudunce Fantasy World with reality;
"Roy made a mistake there that he rectified at a later date. He didn't mean to say Reggie, he meant to say Joe C."
No, Roid didn't make a mistake.
No, he didn't rectify it at a later date.
You just made that up you *****ing clown.
And even if he did mean to say Calzaghe - which he obviously didn't - that would make no *****ing sense either.
As usual, Roid simply lied through his teeth.
In fact Roid lied his way through that whole episode.
This stuff literally has to be spelled out to Loudunce. Over and over. For years. And still he can't get it through his thick skull. He really is that *****ing dumb & deluded. A complete waste of time - only worth ridiculing and bullying.
...As always, Roid again priced himself out of a Collins fight by parroting his usual rhetoric of wanting an unrealistic payday to "make it worth my time" etc...whilst boxing for the Mickey Mouse "World Boxing Union" (German Version) title in Eastern Europe.
At the end of a Sky Sports News interview which has disappeared from YouTube, Collins admitted it wasn't going to happen and the talk eventually fizzled out.
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