Is Dempsey Overrated? Is his ATG status questionable

[GhostofDempsey]

Johnson had the boxing skill to beat men like Dempsey and Marciano. He was used to fighting sluggers that came to him.

Again, delusional. Dempsey and Marciano bobbed, weaved, feinted, and gave angles. They knew how to roll with punches too. Dempsey especially. Don't allow your bias to trick you into thinking Johnson had a prayer when he got schooled by Willard and feasted on middleweights most of his career.

[Zaroku]

Dempsey is an ATG!

[Joe Beamish]

Yes. Dempsey’s greatness was already determined by those experts of his time who watched him live from ringside. Who are you to try to change expert opinion 100 years later? Ignorant or you have an agenda.

Dempsey didn't fight everyone in his time. Just white guys. Big red flag. An atmosphere of protection surrounds Dempsey. The men "of his time" were rigging the game in his favor. That's how they rolled.

His great opponent was Tunney, and we know what happened there.

The competition just isn't there. Not when you compare it to that of the greatest heavyweights.

[Zmerai Khan]

Dempsey didn't fight everyone in his time. Just white guys. Big red flag. An atmosphere of protection surrounds Dempsey. The men "of his time" were rigging the game in his favor. That's how they rolled.

His great opponent was Tunney, and we know what happened there.

The competition just isn't there. Not when you compare it to that of the greatest heavyweights.

The dude was a monster. But he still had a heart. He beat beat people up but didn't wanna kill them. And Black people aren't cut out for fighting... if you think better, then go talk to Adonis Stevenson about how things went with the Ukrainian.

Oh wait...


Maybe one of the guys that quit against Lomachenko?

Johnson looks like rubbish on film. Dempsey is clearly an all time great.

- Asad

[Zmerai Khan]

Johnson had the boxing skill to beat men like Dempsey and Marciano. He was used to fighting sluggers that came to him.

Too bad you can't find any proof to support that.

[travestyny]

And Black people aren't cut out for fighting...

Can you get anymore pathetic?


Here's some interesting reading for you. Dempsey's article entitled, "Why Negroes Rule Boxing." Maybe you can learn something from him.

http://www.606v2.com/t11575-1963-art...y-jack-dempsey

[Zmerai Khan]

Can you get anymore pathetic?

I'm trying. Very hard. You're my inspiration, actually. But you set the bar so high!

- Asad

[travestyny]

Too bad you can't find any proof to support that.

Maybe we'd have some proof if Dempsey didn't duck Johnson when he was 102 years old.

[travestyny]

I'm trying. Very hard. You're my inspiration, actually. But you set the bar so high!

- Asad

Bow down, pvssy boy. You get no respect around these parts.

[Zmerai Khan]

Can you get anymore pathetic?


Here's some interesting reading for you. Dempsey's article entitled, "Why Negroes Rule Boxing." Maybe you can learn something from him.

http://www.606v2.com/t11575-1963-art...y-jack-dempsey

It's a shame Rigo didn't read this before his fight with Lomachenko. And Wilder before fighting Fury. It would've changed everything.

Immigrants from Europe and the former Ottoman empire were almost exclusively cut off from the US after WWII. My parents had to come through Germany and Australia to get the four of us here.

And while post-war changes allowed talented, hardworking people to get rich, they punished anyone who wasn't. Hence less poor urban Whites and more poor urban Blacks.

It's not that Whites stopped playing sports, but they switched to safer more lucrative ones. Your star athletes of today would have been star athletes in the 20s. But they would have mostly been Boxers and sometimes been Baseball players, nothing else. With Whites dominating other sports, you have to assume they'd dominate Boxing, too.

Today Boxing, Kickboxing and MMA have seem to be moving back to the realm of White fighters. But roll back to the 90s and relevant White fighters were a distant memory. But it was a richer time with national and international populations more segregated from each other.

Obviously I was being facetious with Beamish. But it serves to show the post-war era of Boxing was probably the least dynamic.