Muhammad Ali or Joe Louis?

[butterfly1964]

you say louis never beat any top ten heavyweights can you name a top ten heavyweight he fought in his prime? if you count marciano then you also have count alis losses to holmes and spinks!

He didn't fight any, but if he struggled with what he had, then I doubt he would do any better with higher competition.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Louis did the bum of the month tour. He once said Ali would be on the tour!

[jason100x]

Not an easy decision, but probably Ali.

[Hard Boiled HK]

ali got ift decision after gift decision. i rank him at no.2 all time heavies and its just my opinion that putting him above joe louis is absurd.

what historians? ali isnt the best nor is he number two. ali is the single most over rated boxer in the history of the sport.
nobody considers him to be the greatest except for people who know nothing about boxing.

So first of all, do you or do you not rank Ali no. 2 of all time. Why do you always contradict yourself? Let's hear it.

What historians? Look it up, genius.

Nobody considers him the greatest except for people who know nothing about boxing? Just like if you don't think George W. Bush is a great president then you are automatically a *********, right? Good job. A good handful of boxing historians consider Ali as the greatest. But according to you, they know absolutely nothing about boxing.

[butterfly1964]

So first of all, do you or do you not rank Ali no. 2 of all time. Why do you always contradict yourself? Let's hear it.

What historians? Look it up, genius.

Nobody considers him the greatest except for people who know nothing about boxing? Just like if you don't think George W. Bush is a great president then you are automatically a *********, right? Good job. A good handful of boxing historians consider Ali as the greatest. But according to you, they know absolutely nothing about boxing.

Yeah, and this guy calls me an idiot.

[Tong Po]

I think Louis by a very slim margin.But I agree that Ali would give him lots of trouble.Maybe even beat him.


My top five
1.Joe Louis
2.Muhammad Ali
3.Jack Dempsey
4.Jack Johnson
5.Rocky Marciano

1.) Joe Louis
2.) Muhammad Ali
3.) Lennox Lewis
4.) Jack Johnson
5.) Rocky Marciano

[Southpaw Stinger]

1. Muhmmad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman
4. Jack Dempsey
5. Rocky Marciano

[*AKO PA HA!]

muhammad ali!

[SABBATH]

What historians? Look it up, genius.

IBRO polled their members who are boxing historians who the greatest heavyweight of all time was and MUHAMMAD ALI HAD MORE VOTES AS #1 THAN ANY OTHER HEAVYWEIGHT INCLUDING JOE LOUIS. Ali also had a few historians score him lower than 2nd which brought his score down which is why IBRO's ATGH rankings have Ali a close 2nd overall in points to Louis.

Blockhead his appropriately named.

[phallus]

A very close call between the two greatest heavyweights of all time.

Muhammad Ali was the faster and stronger fighter, with the better chin. His reach was longer than that of Joe Louis, and he was an absolute master of mindgames.

Joe Louis hit alot harder than did Ali and he was definitely the better boxer. I also believe his footwork to be better. Ali had alot faster feet, but Louis' footwork was excellent. Granted, he didn't move very fast, but he moved very well.

In a head-to-head fight, a prime Ali would definitely own the first few rounds with his speed and dancing. Louis would be in trouble, struggling to figure out Ali, and he would take a solid beating in the process. He would get back into the fight later on though, and the last few rounds would be fought on even terms.

Still, Alis early domination would help him win by a narrow decision.

Muhammad Ali by SD.

The rematch would go Louis' way I believe. He was a master of figuring out his foes, and he would come more prepared for Ali in a second fight. His superb footwork would help him cut off the ring from the start, and he would be harvesting points throughout the fight.

Joe Louis by UD.

A third fight would also be won by Louis I think.

The Ali of the 70s would be beaten badly and maybe even stopped by Louis. With his legs gone, Ali would be forced to use the rope-a-dope against Louis, which would spell disaster for him. Louis would rip him to shreds with those accurate, fast and ripping shots of his, and Ali would be in serious trouble.

Joe Louis by tko12.


Joe Louis is the greatest heavyweight of all time.

ali always had trouble with the smaller men who were good boxers, henry cooper ( a light hw) almost knocked ali out (in his prime) until angelo dundee cut ali's glove to him a rest. ali was a great champion, his beating a prime foreman shows his tremendous heart.
joe louis is the greatest boxer puncher of all time, his technique was perfect, i think joe was one of the most complete fighters ever. i agree with M26 that ali wins the early rounds because of his speed and footwork, but joe takes him into deep water and uses his beautiful technique to at least score a draw or maybe even stop ali late. frazier knocked ali down, louis was a much bigger puncher than frazier
i gotta say joe louis on this one