Do Bad Decisions Affect Legacy?

[TonyGe]

No a bad decision doesn't always affect a fighter's legacy. People love a good back story. If the fighter can make up for mistakes in the past it's attactive.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

A great legacy is very subjective. I knew a man who was 75W with 75L and 10 draws and for me he had a great legacy because he was a great man who happened to fight over a 150 pro bouts. He went the distance with Marciano twice and was a servicemen and someone who dedicated years to youth services, great man, great legacy.

Ray

After reading this, I just had to look up who this was!

Ted Lowry

Very cool, man

[billeau2]

Beware of the word "Shouldn't," because a lot of things shouldn't happen.

Thats not the dichotomy im working with Lefty. fights can be analyzed. Decisions are simply a byproduct of the process.

[Ray Corso]

Ted Lowery's boxing gym fought against my gym for many years and Ted never tried to take advantage of ANY situation when dealing with J.O. kids and Novice boxers. He was always concerned about making even matches and gave and got respect from everyone.
A very quiet man who looked in shape many years after his days as a pro was over. I remember my kids asking how he could amass a record with so many wins and loses and still compete because I used to teach that there is no reason to further a career in the Open Class and as a Pro unless you can compete at the highest level. Ted just loved to compete and was a tough guy who became a trial horse for young fighters however don't disrespect or cheap shot him or you might get your butt kicked.

He told me he trained hard for Marciano and he didn't mix it up to much because Marciano hit really hard!!!!
He went 20 rounds in Marciano home ring and fought other top guys very respectfully.
Tiger Jack Fox
Bernie Reynolds 1-1-1
LaStarza 2
Jimmy Bivens 2
Archie Moore
Lee Savold
Billy Fox 2
Joey Maxim

Ted lived to be 90 years old!
Lowry was a member of the all-black 555th Parachute Battalion and was honored by United States presidents for his World War II service. Proud to have known him and compete against his fighters!

His "legacy" is outstanding and honorable as anyone could wish for.

Ray

[Eff Pandas]

Ted Lowery's boxing gym fought against my gym for many years and Ted never tried to take advantage of ANY situation when dealing with J.O. kids and Novice boxers. He was always concerned about making even matches and gave and got respect from everyone.
A very quiet man who looked in shape many years after his days as a pro was over. I remember my kids asking how he could amass a record with so many wins and loses and still compete because I used to teach that there is no reason to further a career in the Open Class and as a Pro unless you can compete at the highest level. Ted just loved to compete and was a tough guy who became a trial horse for young fighters however don't disrespect or cheap shot him or you might get your butt kicked.

He told me he trained hard for Marciano and he didn't mix it up to much because Marciano hit really hard!!!!
He went 20 rounds in Marciano home ring and fought other top guys very respectfully.
Tiger Jack Fox
Bernie Reynolds 1-1-1
LaStarza 2
Jimmy Bivens 2
Archie Moore
Lee Savold
Billy Fox 2
Joey Maxim

Ted lived to be 90 years old!
Lowry was a member of the all-black 555th Parachute Battalion and was honored by United States presidents for his World War II service. Proud to have known him and compete against his fighters!

His "legacy" is outstanding and honorable as anyone could wish for.

Ray

Respect to Mr. Lowry's legacy & RIP, but thats a man's legacy not a boxer's legacy you are describing.

The OP is talking about a boxer's legacy. And certainly the fact that Lowry has a journeyman's record in boxing makes his boxing legacy virtually non-existent much like Darrell Boone's or Chop Chop Corley's legacy will be in 50 years.

[Ray Corso]

When the teachers (journeymen) stop teaching the adorned never get to the top.
Being declared the winner or loser in a boxing match is not how a true legacy of a man is determined.
There is so much to this "sport" that will never be understood by fans. It used to bother me but now that I'm old and don't give a crap it's easier to let it all pass by!

Ted Lowery is so much better than say a Tyson Fury. Tyson does have time to have a positive legacy but after watching his press conference yesterday the act is old and boring.

We just have different thoughts on a legacy worth while.

Earning respect has nothing to do with winning and losing.

Ray

[Eff Pandas]

Being declared the winner or loser in a boxing match is not how a true legacy of a man is determined.

And no one is really talking about that except you.

And I wouldn't disagree with you Lowry's or anyone else's legacy as a human being is a much more notable claim to being a productive & inspiring individual to those that truly knew or know someone then what a bunch of dorks think of a boxers legacy in this sport.

Problem is thats not the topic being discussed here. You're talking about some whole other thing.

[The Old LefHook]

Respect to Mr. Lowry's legacy & RIP, but thats a man's legacy not a boxer's legacy you are describing.

The OP is talking about a boxer's legacy. And certainly the fact that Lowry has a journeyman's record in boxing makes his boxing legacy virtually non-existent much like Darrell Boone's or Chop Chop Corley's legacy will be in 50 years.

Precisely, sir. Lowry the man sure had a nice legacy, though.

[OctoberRed]

No a bad decision doesn't always affect a fighter's legacy. People love a good back story. If the fighter can make up for mistakes in the past it's attactive.

Imagine Vitali's legacy if he would have stopped Lewis

[The Old LefHook]

Imagine Vitali's legacy if he would have stopped Lewis

But this mostly relates to guys who came close enough that they probably should have won, and the swing on their legacy that produces even though people can see who really won.

As I have said before, there is only one good way to render a decision--pain helmets-- and, unfortunately, that method is not here yet.