No boxer could have beat Mike Tyson on the 22nd of November, 1986

[Hard Boiled HK]

When I said Tyson would give Ali a boxing lesson, here's what I meant.


Ali just danced, that was his greatest asset. He could move and slip punches. Tyson was a master pin pointer. He could land punches on Ali that Ali had never felt. Tyson was able to direct his punches to KO people. Maby he wont score a KO, but maby do enough work to get a MD or SD.

Ali felt extremely strong punches from Foreman and Frazier.

[butterfly1964]

He's #2 for me. Bert Sugar has him #3. The man had between like 79-100 wins, he did know how to box. And I agree with Butterfly, he would school Holyfield and Lewis.

Actually, Bert Sugar has him number 4. dempsey is number three.

[butterfly1964]

Jack Johnson is very overrated...the only reason you ever hear his name in boxing history more or less is because he was black...Besides being black and breaking the color barrier he didn't do anything....Maybe he threw his punches differently,maybe he was good with defense but many fighters have made inovations like this and have not been mentioned..Jack Johnson has one of the most padded records in history only fighting guys like a way over the hill Jefferies..

Jack Johnson is by no means a top 10 heavyweight, if he was white he would be almost like a Bob Fitzsimmons or something of that nature...Known but nobody considers him a top 10 of all time...

Johnson was a decent fighter who's legacy was so distorted by the color of his skin...He fought a few white guys who were not even that good and everybody thought he was some sort of super fighter...This is because Blacks back then were considered inferior so when a person who was thought to be inferior came up and beat all these "White Hopes" then they thought he was superman....This is shown especially with the Jefferies v Johnson fight....I can't believe that anybody would think an old heavy Jefferies would beat a man otherwise in his prime years it's rediculous...It just shows you how everybody thought Johnson was inferior....

IMO Holyfeild would beat Johnson, and probably Lewis too...

Jack Johnson = Great Historic Icon & Decent boxer but by no means top 10

Really? Look at your avatar and tell me who's overrated now! you say johnson is overrated because he was black, well marciano was overrated 'cause he was white. Marciano had limited boxing skills, overrated power, chin, and physical strength. If marciano was black, then no one would even dream of putting them in their top three. Johnson would cut him up and stop him.

[micky_knox]

why do some of you guys keep bringing up the white/black thing?

its petty.
rocky is am all time great because of his performances in the ring.......crude he may have been but he was effective too.......
49-0 no self respecting boxing fan should disrespect that.....it speaks for its self.......


as for johnson........he was a exceptional boxer with superb skills.......i dont have many of his fights unfortunatly....but i do know that white america were determind to dethrone him and threw everybody they had at him........
he should not be rememberd not as the first black champ but as a great champ........

[Southpaw Stinger]

Ali felt extremely strong punches from Foreman and Frazier.

And Shavers, Lyle and some hard shots from Liston.

Ali fought the hardest punchers of all time and none of them could KO him.

[micky_knox]

And Shavers, Lyle and some hard shots from Liston.

Ali fought the hardest punchers of all time and none of them could KO him.

henry cooper would have done................

[Southpaw Stinger]

henry cooper would have done................

Clay was up at three.....

[micky_knox]

Clay was up at three.....

only just.............dont forget the extra recovery time

[Southpaw Stinger]

only just.............dont forget the extra recovery time

Which was only like 5 seconds to change a glove. He was ok earlier than that after he had the amonia phile waved under his nose.

[Mike Tyson77]

Ali felt extremely strong punches from Foreman and Frazier.

You really think those two are faster than Tyson? Could those guys bench press 200+ poulds when they where like 12? Tyson wasnt just strong, but very fast. That's why if they fought, and Tyson won.....it wouldnt be an upset for me.