If Tyson had come back like Ali would he have been the undisputed GOAT?

[OctoberRed]

Tyson was a dirty fighter when faced with a losing fight. Biting ears, trying to break arms in clinches all a product of a confused fighter without a will to win looking for an exit via disqualification.

Damn right Houdini. Should have been a man and taken the Cintron way out, jump out of the ring and run home.

[MrRolltide91]

Him having wins over Holyfield and Lewis would have been huge for his legacy

[Dempsey-Louis]

Losing to Holyfield by KO and then coming back to beat him (not bite him) in a rematch would have been bigger than him winning the first time out; he then maintains the title until losing it to Lewis after multiple defenses.

People might then be saying he is the GOAT; not me, but people.

[Anthony342]

Maybe not undisputed, but he'd at least be in the discussion.

[GelfSara]

You could argue, not only a boxer’s skills, but also his personality, makes a GOAT.

“Both Tyson and Ali lost about 3 years each in their primes” but for different reasons.
At the time Ali made his decision, it definitely honors him. (His personality turned a bit more mean in the 70’s).



Nope. As Angelo Dundee (and other trainers stated when Tyson was in his prime), a good technician popping up and Tyson would be beaten. Or a fearless man with tremendous strength, like Holyfield.

I recall Dundee claiming Pinklon Thomas would destroy Tyson quite happily; much like Freddie Roach today, Dundee was always boasting about how his guy was going to destroy the other fighter.

Example: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...y-sonny-liston

While amusing, Dundee could not be relied upon to be honest; he had a politician's relationship to the truth.

One of the moments when he WAS honest, however, took place after Tyson knocked out his former heavyweight champion, Trevor Berbick:

"[Tyson] throws combinations I never saw before. I was stunned. Nothing is supposed to bother me. I've worked with Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard, but I'm seeing [from Tyson] a three-punch combination second to none. When have you seen a guy throw a right hand to the kidney, come up the middle with an uppercut, then throw a left hook?"

[JAB5239]

I recall Dundee claiming Pinklon Thomas would destroy Tyson quite happily; much like Freddie Roach today, Dundee was always boasting about how his guy was going to destroy the other fighter.

Example: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...y-sonny-liston

While amusing, Dundee could not be relied upon to be honest; he had a politician's relationship to the truth.

One of the moments when he WAS honest, however, took place after Tyson knocked out his former heavyweight champion, Trevor Berbick:

"[Tyson] throws combinations I never saw before. I was stunned. Nothing is supposed to bother me. I've worked with Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard, but I'm seeing [from Tyson] a three-punch combination second to none. When have you seen a guy throw a right hand to the kidney, come up the middle with an uppercut, then throw a left hook?"

Like Tyson said, "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".

[OctoberRed]

Like Tyson said, "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".

^^^ truer words have never been spoken.