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Originally posted by Anthony342 View PostSpeaking of struggling with weight and stamina, I seem to remember watching a video of an early James Toney fight where he got a long rest period for some reason, which he really needed as he seemed to run out of gas early in that fight. I believe this was at 160 and was on ABC and he was lucky to win it with the extra rest. You or anyone here remember Toney's opponent for that fight.
HOF, not ATG I agree, but I still enjoyed at least some of his fights. I believe the first one I saw was on HBO where he had a nasty gash on his eyebrow and had to take out his opponent before the ref could stop the fight because of the cut and he did it. Who was that, against Williams?
It's crazy to think that both Roy Jones and James Toney have only finally retired within the last year, 2018 (Jones) and 2017 (Toney).
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostYou gotta give him the Jirov fight at least. I was there that night and he looked terrific. His best performance in my opinion.
Was he in shape for that fight then? As opposed to all of his others?
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostI thought it was a very competitive fight but yeah he won the fight for sure.
Was he in shape for that fight then? As opposed to all of his others?
I'm not going to get in a debate about this with you. I respect your opinions even if I don't always agree. I'm not going to change your mind anymore than anyone is going to change mine concerning VK resume. It is what it is.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostI thought Jirov was slightly ahead going into the last round watching it live. Watching it on tape it was a little more clear for Toney, but not as wide as the judges scores in my opinion.
I'm not going to get in a debate about this with you. I respect your opinions even if I don't always agree. I'm not going to change your mind anymore than anyone is going to change mine concerning VK resume. It is what it is.
That's fine but I'm more than happy to debate it. As long as someone doesn't use fantasy and excuses then there's a debate to be had.
The Jirov fight was a good win.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostWas there ever a fight Toney was in shape for?Last edited by Rockin'; 06-12-2018, 03:30 PM.
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Originally posted by Rockin' View PostIf James was not in shape than he never would have survived with the fighters that he fought. He wasn't perfect in those fights but don't imply that James was never in shape. James trained his ass off.. No joke intended.…...Rockin'
Like the numerous times in this thread for example.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostSo how come every time he struggled and lost it's blamed on him not being in shape?
Like the numerous times in this thread for example.Last edited by Rockin'; 06-12-2018, 06:12 PM.
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