Why Does Holyfield get a pass?

[Geralt69]

Yes he was in wars and has the heart of a lion....

BUT

Doesn't the whole steroid thing taint his entire record?

And he was an incredibly dirty fighter overall.....

[Mr.MojoRisin']

At the end of the day he was still fighting guys with serious poundage on him. Not like he was a middleweight on steroids fighting other middleweights. He was a blown up 190 lb cruiserweight fighting guys in the 220s, 230s, and 240s usually. Hell he even fought 260 lb Foreman.

[New England]

lots of time has passed, and he was one of the greatest to ever do it. he's been in wars, taking punches for years just to entertain me.


does that mean i forgive him? no. he was a drug cheat and that should get mention.

but i can't pick and choose what i'm attracted to. a dog loves a bone. evander was the best HW of the first era at HW that i was old enough to recognize and understand. he gave more to the sport in a few fights than a lot of guys will give in their careers. he fought bigger guys than himself with a style that lent itself to taking heaps of punishment. he's been in some of the best fights and rounds that i have ever seen. he took on all challengers.


all of that will help people forget about evan fields.

[Geralt69]

At the end of the day he was still fighting guys with serious poundage on him. Not like he was a middleweight on steroids fighting other middleweights. He was a blown up 190 lb cruiserweight fighting guys in the 220s, 230s, and 240s usually. Hell he even fought 260 lb Foreman.

I agree. Like is said before Holyfield is a warrior. Steroids didn't give him extra heart! haha

But he did some amazing stuff in his career. And we have to seriously question could he produce these performances clean?

It's not like I'm just throwing around accusations for no reason like floyd did about Manny.
Holyfield did get caught out after all.

[OctoberRed]

I agree. Like is said before Holyfield is a warrior. Steroids didn't give him extra heart! haha

But he did some amazing stuff in his career. And we have to seriously question could he produce these performances clean?

It's not like I'm just throwing around accusations for no reason like floyd did about Manny.
Holyfield did get caught out after all.

Refresh my memory on when he got caught?

[Geralt69]

Refresh my memory on when he got caught?

The whole Evan Fields thing....

[OctoberRed]

The whole Evan Fields thing....

As far back as the early ’90s fingers were pointed at Holyfield with regards to him having bulked up with the aid of PEDs. And then, more recently, there was the now infamous “Evan Fields” episode. During a 2007 investigation of the company Applied Pharmacy Services, of Alabama, it was discovered how a customer named Evan Fields was buying steroids. A phone call was placed to the number of Fields and, low and behold, Holyfield picked up!

Instantly denying any wrong doing, the former four-time heavyweight champ stated that the medication was for his dad, who had a heart condition (and is now deceased). The story appeared to go away, but in a recent interview with Kevin Gorman of The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Holyfield spoke in some depth about the incident.

“When people say I’m linked to something, they’ve got to show some kind of proof,” Holyfield said. “Ask them how many times they have seen me overweight or underweight. I am consistently at the same weight more than anybody who ever boxed. They’ve never seen my skin saggy. And I’ve been tested more than anybody, and they ain’t ever found nothing in my system.”

[Anthony342]

Yeah, must be some real undetectable stuff then. Jon Jones should use it in the UFC, so he doesn't keep testing positive for steroids.

[Geralt69]

As far back as the early ’90s fingers were pointed at Holyfield with regards to him having bulked up with the aid of PEDs. And then, more recently, there was the now infamous “Evan Fields” episode. During a 2007 investigation of the company Applied Pharmacy Services, of Alabama, it was discovered how a customer named Evan Fields was buying steroids. A phone call was placed to the number of Fields and, low and behold, Holyfield picked up!

Instantly denying any wrong doing, the former four-time heavyweight champ stated that the medication was for his dad, who had a heart condition (and is now deceased). The story appeared to go away, but in a recent interview with Kevin Gorman of The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Holyfield spoke in some depth about the incident.

“When people say I’m linked to something, they’ve got to show some kind of proof,” Holyfield said. “Ask them how many times they have seen me overweight or underweight. I am consistently at the same weight more than anybody who ever boxed. They’ve never seen my skin saggy. And I’ve been tested more than anybody, and they ain’t ever found nothing in my system.”

Yeah, must be some real undetectable stuff then. Jon Jones should use it in the UFC, so he doesn't keep testing positive for steroids.

I don't watch UFC....

What about that BALCO thing??

Didn't Holyfields name come up for that as well???

[tonysoprano]

If he was on the juice he must have had some good doctors to help him avoiding testing positive.

I believe he probably was juicing but **** knows how him and others beat the testers.