Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin'
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Do you rank Larry Holmes above Rocky Marciano?
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Originally posted by juggernaut666 View PostTheres a BIG trajectory differance between MMA gloves and even 5 oz boxing gloves ,not just the weight but the damage smaller more compact and harder material does to the skin.
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Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin' View PostWhat about Weaver and Norton?
What did Gerry Cooney do other than hit Holmes with multiple low blows?
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Originally posted by joseph5620 View PostWhat about them? They were tough fights. You said ALL you need to do to give Holmes trouble was a big punch. As I pointed out, other than one knockdown Shavers lost every round to Holmes in two fights.
What did Gerry Cooney do other than hit Holmes with multiple low blows?
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Larry Holmes in his prime head to head, had the technical ability and hand speed to cause any heavyweight trouble! and he was a tough guy, very few heavyweight's where ****ing him out with one shot! even up against Mike Tyson, he was trying to get up as the referee sat on his chest.
I rank him above Rocky Marciano, because of his skill set and range of styles and fighters he faced. Even his win against Ray Mercer is a underrated win. Also his effort against Holyfield! all of these performances that are overlooked, for me prove how technically gifted he was as a fighter!
Larry Holmes is the type of fighter, that could produce a good performance out of shape! you can only do this when you are gifted! guys like Rocky Marciano had to be in 100% physiological condition otherwise? he was stuffed.
He probably has the best jab in history aswell, in terms of speed and delivery in his prime.Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-21-2017, 03:48 PM.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostLarry Holmes in his prime head to head, had the technical ability and hand speed to cause any heavyweight trouble! and he was a tough guy, very few heavyweight's where ****ing him out with one shot! even up against Mike Tyson, he was trying to get up as the referee sat on his chest.
I rank him above Rocky Marciano, because of his skill set and range of styles and fighters he faced. Even his win against Ray Mercer is a underrated win. Also his effort against Holyfield! all of these performances that are overlooked, for me prove how technically gifted he was as a fighter!
Larry Holmes is the type of fighter, that could produce a good performance out of shape! you can only do this when you are gifted! guys like Rocky Marciano had to be in 100% physiological condition otherwise? he was stuffed.
He probably has the best jab in history aswell, in terms of speed and delivery in his prime.
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Originally posted by Joe Beamish View PostI don't think most boxing people overlook Holmes' performances in any way. It seems to me that he usually makes the top 5 list of all time greatest heavies -- whereas Marciano usually does not. (I'm not sure that he should.) But I do think HIS skills and performances are often underrated, including by boxing people. He beat some extremely skilled and game fighters (Charles in two fights, Moore, Walcott in the first fight especially)....they just tended to be on the small side, like himself.Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-21-2017, 04:30 PM.
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