Best UK Boxer of all time

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I have to dismiss this comment as pure nonsense. Not even top 10 LOL.

Nope. Scrub up on your British boxing history.

Fitzsimmons, Wilde, Lewis, TKL, Lynch, Welsh, Buchanan, Driscoll, Berg, Conteh, Honeyghan, Turpin and Calzaghe all rank ahead of Eubank and Froch.

No shame in ranking them outside the top 10 when you understand what's above ^ and I'm probably missing a few more.

It's actually pretty ignorant and disrespectful to the above by stating that Eubank and Froch are the best Britian has produced. I'll give you credit for getting Lewis right though.

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Nope. Scrub up on your British boxing history.

Fitzsimmons, Wilde, Lewis, TKL, Lynch, Welsh, Buchanan, Driscoll, Berg, Conteh, Honeyghan, Turpin and Calzaghe all rank ahead of Eubank and Froch.

No shame in ranking them outside the top 10 when you understand what's above ^ and I'm probably missing a few more.

It's actually pretty ignorant and disrespectful to the above by stating that Eubank and Froch are the best Britian has produced. I'll give you credit for getting Lewis right though.

You rate Calzaghe in your top 10 but I explained what version of Chris Eubank lost to him. It's out there documented. I also gave you a very legit analogy, Larry vs Ali.
Go and watch.

I respect Contehs run at LH-weight and Honneyghan going away to pick up the title. I'm not steeped in nostalgia but you clearly are. If you were a power ranger you'd be the Boxrec version. I'm sick and tired of you posters that just copy and paste. Froch and Eubank are above the names you've mentioned. It's blasphemy of yourself to suggest they are not even top 10.

You've never seen a Welsh or Fitzsimmons in your life, this forum makes me laugh sometimes.

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This is the biased non educated poster that pollutes BoxingScene with agenda nonsense. I've met your type many times but from today you're banned from talking to me about British history and this is why...

Michael Watson has a better chance than Eubank or Benny of beating GGG.

Eubank was numero uno in the trilogy. I'll leave it at that.

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You rate Calzaghe in your top 10 but I explained what version of Chris Eubank lost to him. It's out there documented. I also gave you a very legit analogy, Larry vs Ali.
Go and watch.

I respect Contehs run at LH-weight and Honneyghan going away to pick up the title. I'm not steeped in nostalgia but you clearly are. If you were a power ranger you'd be the Boxrec version. I'm sick and tired of you posters that just copy and paste. Froch and Eubank are above the names you've mentioned. It's blasphemy of yourself to suggest they are not even top 10.

You've never seen a Welsh or Fitzsimmons in your life, this forum makes me laugh sometimes.

I'm no historian but I've studied enough on British boxing history to confidently say you're opinion is ignorant and disrespectful.

Calzaghe is one of those guys who I can put either just in the top ten or just out without much problem. I find him hard to rank. He has the longevity and the 0 but his resume isnt great.

Fitzsimmons is an ATG. Some rate him top 15 of all time. Froch and Eubank wouldnt even crack the top 150.
There's infact footage of Welsh that ive watched, he was considered a defensive genius of his time.
When you rank fighters greatness you rank on resume, reputation, longevity and talent. Froch and Eubank don't have enough in those areas to realistically rank them in the top ten of a UK greats list never mind rank them as the best.
Are you trying to tell me Froch or Eubank have better names on their resumes than Welsh, or Fitzsimmons? Welsh beat Benny Leonard ffs and Fitzsimmons was the first 3 weight world champion (middleweights, light heavy and heavyweight) and one of the top 10 hardest punchers in boxing history, as is Jimmy Wilde.
How ignorant can you be to rank Carl ****in Froch above Wilde, Kid Lewis, Welsh and Fitzsimmons? Jesus H ****ing Christ.

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This is the biased non educated poster that pollutes BoxingScene with agenda nonsense. I've met your type many times but from today you're banned from talking to me about British history and this is why...



Eubank was numero uno in the trilogy. I'll leave it at that.

And you're coming across as a Eubank fanboy. Blinded fanboys are what pollute boxing forums.

Who gives a toss who won the trilogy. Boxing doesnt work like that. Stylistically I believe Michael Watson would have the best shot against GGG because I and many others believe he was the best fighter out of the three.

And have you even Watched the Eubank Watson fights? The first fight Watson totally outclassed Eubank and should have won a decision but was robbed. In the second fight, Watson boxed his ears off again, dropped him, and had he not foolishly dropped his guard as Eubank got up, would probably have won the fight, and never been injured.

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And you're coming across as a Eubank fanboy. Blinded fanboys are what pollute boxing forums.

Who gives a toss who won the trilogy. Boxing doesnt work like that. Stylistically I believe Michael Watson would have the best shot against GGG because I and many others believe he was the best fighter out of the three.

And have you even Watched the Eubank Watson fights? The first fight Watson totally outclassed Eubank and should have won a decision but was robbed. In the second fight, Watson boxed his ears off again, dropped him, and had he not foolishly dropped his guard as Eubank got up, would probably have won the fight, and never been injured.

You believe he was the best of three but he factually wasn't. You should have ran to Boxrec like you've been doing, it's there in black and white.

As for Fitzsimmons and Co please just keep name dropping for nostalgias sake. You can write all the essays but you can't rewrite history. Eubank and Froch are top 5 without a shadow of a doubt.

I haven't really got time to be responding to your shallow knowledge of Boxing whilst I'm on holiday so I'll get to your dimness when I reach back. Telling me to watch Watson and Eubank when you've never seen 15 rounds of none of the black and white fighters. Go through my post history, I've seen you nostalgia steeped posters off with ease.

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You believe he was the best of three but he factually wasn't. You should have ran to Boxrec like you've been doing, it's there in black and white.

As for Fitzsimmons and Co please just keep name dropping for nostalgias sake. You can write all the essays but you can't rewrite history. Eubank and Froch are top 5 without a shadow of a doubt.

I haven't really got time to be responding to your shallow knowledge of Boxing whilst I'm on holiday so I'll get to your dimness when I reach back. Telling me to watch Watson and Eubank when you've never seen 15 rounds of none of the black and white fighters. Go through my post history, I've seen you nostalgia steeped posters off with ease.

Yes, I believe Watson was the all round more tethnically gifted boxer of the three but obviously his career ended when he was 26 or 27 so Benn and Eubank went on to have longer careers making their records deeper and careers greater.

You're ignorance is comedy gold mate lol. At first there was just 3, now there's a top 5 to your arsenal of superior knowledge on UK boxing greats. So you have Lennox Lewis which I agree on, and you have Eubank and Froch. So who are the other two of your top 5 and what order do you have them? **** out a top 10 if you want. Just call this list 'The top 10 best British fighters I know of list' lol.

"See them off with ease"??? Dont you mean chase them off with ignorance and ******ity? because that's all I'm reading from you. No facts, no knowledge, just an ignorant, limited opinion.

I look forward to your return. I shall await it by watching old fights of Jim Driscoll and Jack Kid Berg on my projector screen.

Enjoy your holiday RodentOfDaGame

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Yes, I believe Watson was the all round more tethnically gifted boxer of the three but obviously his career ended when he was 26 or 27 so Benn and Eubank went on to have longer careers making their records deeper and careers greater.

You're ignorance is comedy gold mate lol. At first there was just 3, now there's a top 5 to your arsenal of superior knowledge on UK boxing greats. So you have Lennox Lewis which I agree on, and you have Eubank and Froch. So who are the other two of your top 5 and what order do you have them? **** out a top 10 if you want. Just call this list 'The top 10 best British fighters I know of list' lol.

"See them off with ease"??? Dont you mean chase them off with ignorance and ******ity? because that's all I'm reading from you. No facts, no knowledge, just an ignorant, limited opinion.

I look forward to your return. I shall await it by watching old fights of Jim Driscoll and Jack Kid Berg on my projector screen.

Enjoy your holiday RodentOfDaGame

I don't win debates because the words I write are gospel, I tend to win because I dissect what the opposite has said and use it against them. By the time I finish the person realises how ****** and dimwitted the premise of their argument is.

Let's start off with this little gem of a quote from this forums poster boy.

Roy Jones Jr on Boxers from today compared to the past: "What's better a Porsche corvette from 1978 or 2016?".

Watsons career ended because of people such as yourself. Trying to create a monster to dethrone the best at the time. Eubank won the battle & war re. that saga just like when Marquez ended all questions re. Pacquiao with that sickening KO. You're entitled to your opinion on Watson being the best but let's not pretend Eubanks uppercut didn't end his career at the tender age of 26.

Limited knowledge? Now that's comedy gold. Running to Boxrec and naming a fighter from two centuries ago as the best from MY country is not only blasphemy but is nursery type of stuff. In an era where majority of fights were undocumented, talent pool thin (how many on his resume were chimney cleaners) & sanctioning bodies so under developed they were non existent. In historical terms Fitzsimmons & the rest of the older fighters you've mentioned are cavemen compared to the fine tuned athletes of today.

Top 10s are very subjective stuff. A reporter I admired was Bert Sugar but his all time list was absolute garbage, in fact it was so horrid that he may as well have called it "the nostalgic name dropping top 100 to make myself look like a Boxing guru" list. You can draw some parallels from Mr Sugar.

The Boxers I named in the previous are the best in recorded British history. I accept your honorable mention of Conteh but if he's on a list so is former undisputed light-welter king Ricky Hatton.

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I don't win debates because the words I write are gospel, I tend to win because I dissect what the opposite has said and use it against them. By the time I finish the person realises how ****** and dimwitted the premise of their argument is.

Let's start off with this little gem of a quote from this forums poster boy.

Roy Jones Jr on Boxers from today compared to the past: "What's better a Porsche corvette from 1978 or 2016?".

Watsons career ended because of people such as yourself. Trying to create a monster to dethrone the best at the time. Eubank won the battle & war re. that saga just like when Marquez ended all questions re. Pacquiao with that sickening KO. You're entitled to your opinion on Watson being the best but let's not pretend Eubanks uppercut didn't end his career at the tender age of 26.

Limited knowledge? Now that's comedy gold. Running to Boxrec and naming a fighter from two centuries ago as the best from MY country is not only blasphemy but is nursery type of stuff. In an era where majority of fights were undocumented, talent pool thin (how many on his resume were chimney cleaners) & sanctioning bodies so under developed they were non existent. In historical terms Fitzsimmons & the rest of the older fighters you've mentioned are cavemen compared to the fine tuned athletes of today.

Top 10s are very subjective stuff. A reporter I admired was Bert Sugar but his all time list was absolute garbage, in fact it was so horrid that he may as well have called it "the nostalgic name dropping top 100 to make myself look like a Boxing guru" list. You can draw some parallels from Mr Sugar.

The Boxers I named in the previous are the best in recorded British history. I accept your honorable mention of Conteh but if he's on a list so is former undisputed light-welter king Ricky Hatton.

Do you honestly not believe Fitz, Wilde and Ted Kid are greater than Froch and Chris ****ing Eubank? Are you trolling? lol. I only really read these type of opinions from casuals or people who can't construct a coherent sentence.

let’s ignore the old timers and discuss post war brits and how you can conceivably place Eubank and Froch as greater than Ken Buchanan. Buchanan has a tougher resume, a greater win, and was more talented and technically schooled than both Froch and Eubank. I would say he was tougher as well.

The only post war UK boxer greater than Buchanan is Lennox Lewis.

How was the holiday?

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Do you honestly not believe Fitz, Wilde and Ted Kid are greater than Froch and Chris ****ing Eubank? Are you trolling? lol. I only really read these type of opinions from casuals or people who can't construct a coherent sentence.

let’s ignore the old timers and discuss post war brits and how you can conceivably place Eubank and Froch as greater than Ken Buchanan. Buchanan has a tougher resume, a greater win, and was more talented and technically schooled than both Froch and Eubank. I would say he was tougher as well.

The only post war UK boxer greater than Buchanan is Lennox Lewis.

How was the holiday?

Okay so we agree Fitzsimmons isn't on their level?.

It was a rain soaked holiday flew to Amsterdam for 5 days was resigned to coffeeshops and the hotel.