question about Ali

[travestyny]

Who won March 8th, 1971 in Madison Square Garden?

You've got a 50-50 shot of answering it correct. Don't be scurred, homie! Take aim and fire!

Oh, and let's check your logic.

Frazier won in '71, so that means he would have won in '67.


I guess Sugar Ray Leonard shouldn't have been able to beat Roberto Duran, huh? They fought twice in the 80's with very different results. I wonder how that was possible.

Idiot.

[Rusty Tromboni]

What the actual fvvck does that have to do with who would have won before Ali lost 3 years of his prime????

There is no fact that would prove what would happen between them at an earlier time. Your whole premise is just as ******ed as you are.



Just did, you big dummy. You guys try to do this with your fantasy fights all the time....which is merely what it says. Your own fantasy about what would happen. There is no fact that proves what you claim it does.

If you think losing 3 years of Ali's prime helped rather than hurt him, you're a bigger idiot than I thought. And I didn't think that was possible.


So again, what fact proves that Ali would have lost? Waiting....

When people complain about the number of incarcerated Americans it gets a lot gasps and shock. But then you read posts like this ^, and it all makes perfect sense. Crazy people is a thing.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Oh, and let's check your logic.

Frazier won in '71, so that means he would have won in '67.


I guess Sugar Ray Leonard shouldn't have been able to beat Roberto Duran, huh? They fought twice in the 80's with very different results. I wonder how that was possible.

Idiot.

Ali had just stopped Quarry and Bonavena.

What pre-exile performance matches either of those accomplishments?

Ali at his best couldn't beat Joe at his best.

Look at Joe's defenses post march 8th - does that look like vintage Joe Frazier to you?

Are you proud of Ali for beating THAT guy?

Ali only beat Joe when Frazier should have been retired. Every fan knows it.

Now change your lipstick. I was only joking when I said purple looks good on you, and I'm tired of comments that my dyck looks like Grimace from the old McDonald's commercials.

[travestyny]

That's a really long answer, when all you had to say was two words.

You're not very bright. Beating Ali in the first fight only means Frazier beat Ali in the first fight. It has no bearing on any other fight, which is obvious since Frazier lost the next two, dummy.

Again, how did Ray Leonard ever beat Duran in the rematch? Should have been impossible with your logic. I mean Duran beat him in the first one. Why would you ever believe he wouldn't beat him in the second, right? I even erased the complications due to Ali losing 3 prime years in this example, since they fight the same year.

We can do this with many different boxers, and it proves your logic is idiotic.

Idiot.

[Rusty Tromboni]

I guess Sugar Ray Leonard shouldn't have been able to beat Roberto Duran, huh? They fought twice in the 80's with very different results. I wonder how that was possible.

Just because you can't afford it, doesn't mean you shouldn't know that ******* and champaigne are as damaging to the body and Crack and Colt 45. Especially when you do enough for 5 people, like Duran did. Even without training, he could have won the rematch. The partying and the mindset he carried into the ring are what destroyed him.

Ray was never going to beat a prime Duran. But I do believe that he returned from defeat as a man who could have given the Duran of Montreal a much more competitive fight than the Ray who showed up naive enough to believe his size and youth would prevail. It's a shame we never saw that rematch. And instead got a side-show act. The greatest fight that never happened.

[Rusty Tromboni]

which is obvious since Frazier lost the next two, dummy.

If irony could kill.

[travestyny]

Ali had just stopped Quarry and Bonavena.

What pre-exile performance matches either of those accomplishments?

Again, faulty logic. Does Ali do better against these guys if not for the 3 year lay off? Do you actually have a brain?

Ali at his best couldn't beat Joe at his best.

An opinion. There is no fact that proves what would happen earlier.

Look at Joe's defenses post march 8th - does that look like vintage Joe Frazier to you?

Are you proud of Ali for beating THAT guy?

Ali only beat Joe when Frazier should have been retired. Every fan knows it.

Now change your lipstick. I was only joking when I said purple looks good on you, and I'm tired of comments that my dyck looks like Grimace from the old McDonald's commercials.

Stop lying to yourself. Everyone knows you don't have a ****.


Now, once again, was Ali more prime in '67 or '71?


Should Leonard have been able to beat Duran?

Because we all know that with all boxers, they only need to fight once. After that, the winner automatically wins every fight. Except...that's not how it works


But thank you for letting the entire forum know that Mayweather would have always beat Pacquiao. The fact that he won makes an earlier fight not necessary, right?

Right????

[travestyny]

If irony could kill.

If he only had a brain.


Answer the question. The fact that Mayweather beat Pac in 2015 proves that he definitively would have beaten him in 2010, right?


Right?

[travestyny]

Just because you can't afford it, doesn't mean you shouldn't know that ******* and champaigne are as damaging to the body and Crack and Colt 45. Especially when you do enough for 5 people, like Duran did. Even without training, he could have won the rematch. The partying and the mindset he carried into the ring are what destroyed him.

Ray was never going to beat a prime Duran. But I do believe that he returned from defeat as a man who could have given the Duran of Montreal a much more competitive fight than the Ray who showed up naive enough to believe his size and youth would prevail. It's a shame we never saw that rematch. And instead got a side-show act. The greatest fight that never happened.

Oh, I get it. That rematch doesn't count with regards to your logic because it was a "side-show act."


Thank you for proving my point. Your logic failed.

[travestyny]

If irony could kill.

Answer the question. The fact that Mayweather beat Pac in 2015 proves that he definitively would have beaten him in 2010, right?


Right?

Nevermind. It only took a little search for me to clear this up.

Floyd beat Manny. The timing of the fight and how it transpired were pretty pathetic. But that doesn't change the (very clear) result.


Unless we had a time machine and could force these two to face off in their prime at a reasonable weight, there's no point further talking about matching them.

Exactly my point, you big dummy!!!! CLASS DISMISSED!

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