You can go back in time and watch ONE unfilmed fight from Ringside...

[The Old LefHook]

Robinson vs Gavilan 1

man this would be awesome to see

Why? Their second fight was no great shakes to watch. Gavilan was a boring counterpuncher.

[therealpugilist]

Why? Their second fight was no great shakes to watch. Gavilan was a boring counterpuncher.

gavilan was far from boring....he wasn't quite in his prime in the 40s when they fought

From the fights I have watched of Gavilan, he is a great counterpuncher but he also had great stamina, a high punch output most fights, deceptive speed and power, a tough chin and was one of the best welterweights ever. Also he had charisma in the ring

2 of the best welterweights ever sharing a ring...why wouldn't I want to see it ?

[Tom Cruise]

Why? Their second fight was no great shakes to watch. Gavilan was a boring counterpuncher.

The skill level on show would have been exceptionally high.

I can see why someone would want to see it

[JAB5239]

Greb vs Tunney 1, no brainer!!

[phallus]

greb - walker, it was the superfight of its time, two champs from two different weight classes, greb tunney would be my second choice

[The Old LefHook]

gavilan was far from boring....he wasn't quite in his prime in the 40s when they fought

From the fights I have watched of Gavilan, he is a great counterpuncher but he also had great stamina, a high punch output most fights, deceptive speed and power, a tough chin and was one of the best welterweights ever. Also he had charisma in the ring

2 of the best welterweights ever sharing a ring...why wouldn't I want to see it ?

Oh, Gavilan was an excellent fighter, just not an exciting one, despite a high punch output. Whatever charisma you claim he had outside the bolo punch was not enough to make him a big draw in his time. Well, he was a bit of a draw, but no Robinson. Foremost, he lacked the big punch.

The KO reigns in boxing. Gavilan had a lot of skill to appreciate, enough that Robby had to settle in and box him and be more careful than usual. Ray learned that the first fight. From what I have read, their two fights seem like carbon copies.

Counterpunchers without a big punch are generally at the top of few viewing lists. You don't cancel work to see a modestly-powered counterpuncher. At least, I wouldn't.

Robinson was not falling into the trap. I'll just box you, then. Not that exciting. To make matters worse, Kid had a great chin. The best thing I can say is that Ray made the right strategic adjustment.

I rate Gavilan high. He probably minces every welterweight in sight today.

[The Old LefHook]

The truly amazing thing is how much alike Robinson and Gavilan fight, and how much they even look alike. They could play the other guy perfectly in a movie of his life.

[therealpugilist]

Oh, Gavilan was an excellent fighter, just not an exciting one, despite a high punch output. Whatever charisma you claim he had outside the bolo punch was not enough to make him a big draw in his time. Well, he was a bit of a draw, but no Robinson. Foremost, he lacked the big punch.

The KO reigns in boxing. Gavilan had a lot of skill to appreciate, enough that Robby had to settle in and box him and be more careful than usual. Ray learned that the first fight. From what I have read, their two fights seem like carbon copies.

Counterpunchers without a big punch are generally at the top of few viewing lists. You don't cancel work to see a modestly-powered counterpuncher. At least, I wouldn't.

Robinson was not falling into the trap. I'll just box you, then. Not that exciting. To make matters worse, Kid had a great chin. The best thing I can say is that Ray made the right strategic adjustment.

I rate Gavilan high. He probably minces every welterweight in sight today.

you sound like you were ring side? I wasn't. Also what you find exciting may not be the same as I do....I like fast paced chess matches with high levels of skills....not into the rock em sock em club fighter level action.

[soul_survivor]

Were Armstrongs 3 title wins filmed in their entirety? I'm pretty sure I've seen film clips of some of those fights but never seen an entire film collection.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Any Harry greb fight.. Would have liked to actually seen him in action and not just word of mouth