Rocky Marciano: Read this before smeone makes you look ****** with the facts!

[Kid Achilles]

he probably could take you and me in a street fight - but for me he didnt have the style nor grace that other fighters had like Ali or even Frazier when he used to bob and weave.

Kinda like saying the sun would "probably" burn you if you landed on it.

[micky_knox]

it stun's me that anybody could even think about doubting the rock

[Hous]

I'm not mentioning any names.

Well its clear your hinting out me because im topic creator, who the **** are you to tell me my ethnic background? You have no idea what my ethnic origins are so stfu.

I think its exactly the opposite of what you make it out to be.

[micky_knox]

Well its clear your hinting out me because im topic creator, who the **** are you to tell me my ethnic background? You have no idea what my ethnic origins are so stfu.

I think its exactly the opposite of what you make it out to be.

ethnic origins

i see it this this way...........some black guys hate the fact that a white guy was so good.......
i find this amuzing.............its about boxing not colour... get with the program,and put colour aside

[Kid Achilles]

Most people who've seen his fights and still doubt him do so because he wasn't the smoothest performer around. Louis and Ali were much more stylish and fluid in their movements while Marciano didn't look so great doing what he did. The thing is, boxing above everything else is about imposing your will on your opponent and that's what Marciano did successfully 49 times out of 49 fights, against the best heavyweights in the world at the time. All of those guys were skilled athletes training their asses off, and they lived at a time when boxing was a bigger and more competitive sport than it is today. People who knock his competition usually just look at the weights, true they were smaller on average than modern heavies, but skillwise those guys were many notches above the current crop. Charles, Walcott, Layne, Moore, Matthews, LaStarza, ****ell etc. were all world class pros and Marciano took them all out.

Comparing eras in boxing is a very subjective exercise and you'll always have arguments when attempting it. Many people think the 1970's were the golden years for the heavyweights but there were plenty of knowledgeable boxing people who lived at the time who thought it was a lousy time for boxing. It's hard to agree on wha eras were truly "better" than others but one thing that isn't open to debate is Marciano's record, 49-0. Never lost, never fought to a draw. Completely unblemished.

[Toddy]

ethnic origins

i see it this this way...........some black guys hate the fact that a white guy was so good.......
i find this amuzing.............its about boxing not colour... get with the program,and put colour aside

very well put!

[Southpaw Stinger]

ethnic origins

i see it this this way...........some black guys hate the fact that a white guy was so good.......
i find this amuzing.............its about boxing not colour... get with the program,and put colour aside

Well said man.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Most people who've seen his fights and still doubt him do so because he wasn't the smoothest performer around. Louis and Ali were much more stylish and fluid in their movements while Marciano didn't look so great doing what he did. The thing is, boxing above everything else is about imposing your will on your opponent and that's what Marciano did successfully 49 times out of 49 fights, against the best heavyweights in the world at the time. All of those guys were skilled athletes training their asses off, and they lived at a time when boxing was a bigger and more competitive sport than it is today. People who knock his competition usually just look at the weights, true they were smaller on average than modern heavies, but skillwise those guys were many notches above the current crop. Charles, Walcott, Layne, Moore, Matthews, LaStarza, ****ell etc. were all world class pros and Marciano took them all out.

Comparing eras in boxing is a very subjective exercise and you'll always have arguments when attempting it. Many people think the 1970's were the golden years for the heavyweights but there were plenty of knowledgeable boxing people who lived at the time who thought it was a lousy time for boxing. It's hard to agree on wha eras were truly "better" than others but one thing that isn't open to debate is Marciano's record, 49-0. Never lost, never fought to a draw. Completely unblemished.

ethnic origins

i see it this this way...........some black guys hate the fact that a white guy was so good.......
i find this amuzing.............its about boxing not colour... get with the program,and put colour aside

Both very well put

[Hard Boiled HK]

To be honest, I think in our generation (I'm not talking about the OLDER generation) the fans of Marciano did not choose him because he was white. They are also not disrespecting Ali, Frazier, Foreman, etc. They simply have their favorite, and you cannot use race against them for that. When was the last time they say something like "you like Ali becuause you're black" to an Ali fan who happened to be African American? As long as you are true to boxing, and not favor one boxer over another simply because of race, then you are fine. But if you say something like "Marciano was the best and Ali was a bum" then that's pure racial hate.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

To be honest, I think in our generation (I'm not talking about the OLDER generation) the fans of Marciano did not choose him because he was white. They are also not disrespecting Ali, Frazier, Foreman, etc. They simply have their favorite, and you cannot use race against them for that. When was the last time they say something like "you like Ali becuause you're black" to an Ali fan who happened to be African American? As long as you are true to boxing, and not favor one boxer over another simply because of race, then you are fine. But if you say something like "Marciano was the best and Ali was a bum" then that's pure racial hate.

I like when people call Boxer's bums only because it reminds me of Paulie from Rocky and it makes me laugh-

"The guy's bum, no class"
"Hey Ya know Tommy your a piec'a ga'bage"