Rocky Marciano: Read this before smeone makes you look ****** with the facts!

[Mike Tyson Jr.]

43 KNOCK OUTS in 49 fights!
88% Knockout ratio

Didnt fight anyone special? Rocky Marciano has one of the most impressive resumes in any divisions history.

-Archie Moore -------------- Recognized as top 5
-"Jersey" Joe Walcott twice - One of the top 10
-Joe Louis ------------------ Recognized as best boxer in history
-Phil Muscato
-Freddie Beshore
-Harry "Kid" Matthews
-Ezzard Charles (Twice)
-Roland LaStanza (Twice) --- One of the top five chins in history

Its not just that he fought legends, he beat them all, mostly by KO.

Rocky Marciano has the highest percentage of KOs than any other Heavyweight boxer in history at 88%. We already came to a conclusion that its more impressive than George Foremans record of his fist 49 fights as Rocky Marciano fought 2X's as many legends and even more iron chins.





Rocky Marciano had his own defensive style of boxing, it was sloppy looking, but incredibly successful. It was much harder to land any punch on Marciano as he would duck more throw his body back and jump around than what it would seem. Check out his moves here.

The Greatest Heavyweight Champion EVER!
My rating: 5 out of 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZr3wYOFQA
Comments: Rocky Marciano was an Italian-American boxer who is the greatest Heavyweight champion to ever box, he is the only heavyweight champion to have retire UDEFEATED after FOUR YEARS of holding the title. He fought the best and he beat the best. A huge achievement that noone else has equaled. Heres a famous clip of his knockout of Joe Louis, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofpq9ZVBZ98

Still dont believe me? Fine dont take my word, take the word of the Legends that lost to him.





asked where Marciano had improved most between the first and second fights:


Others




Ali said he was surprised at how hard it was to land a hit on Marciano when they had the exhibition, the computer match.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/A...//Rocky13.html


Arguement that Marciano only beat people past their prime.

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/A...//Rocky13.html

Seems to me these facts speak louder than anything else. Marcianos age difference is actually lower than all of the other legends when they won their titles.

Their was a ten year age difference between Moore and Marciano, significant but not nearly as bad as some of the above, and they are more well known that Marciano.

Check this out, Floyd Patterson was 21 years younger than Archie Moore and Archie KOed him by the fifth round. This happened after Marciano KOed Archie Moore.

http://www.fighttoys.com/Moore%20record.htm

And it took Tyson 12 rounds, in his prime, to win a fight with James Smith by desicion. Tyson was 14 years younger than James Smith

http://www.fighttoys.com/Tyson%20record.htm
If you think winning a desicion over James Smith, who the hell is that, with a 14 year age difference is more impressive than KOing a man 10 years older than you that has gone down in history as one of the finest men in boxing you are the most biased person on these boards.


in 1969 Marciano had an exhibition match when at 46 years old with a much younger Muhammad Ali who had was already established himself as the greatest. The 46 year old Marciano beat Ali. You can argue the computer was wrong, we all know computers are unreliable.

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/A...//alirock.html


Punching power


How could a 5'10 185lb man be so powerful? He was simply the most conditioned fighter to ever enter the ring. Noone will argue with you on that one. He was 185lbs but more powerful than most 200+lb punchers.

Joe Louis was too old and washed up.
A lot of them guys were old. Archie
Moore was a light heavyweight. the
funny thing about archie moore is even
though he was too old and a lightheavyweight
he still knocked Rocky Slopiano down. And read
the history books the ref gave Slopiano a 8 count
to recover which was a controversy cuz he was not
supposd to do that in the rules for that fight.
if the ref did not cheat for Slopiano Archie moore
would have won that fight. Slopiano knew it too
that why the bum retired after this fight cuz
Archie almost beat him but that ref gave slopiano
a break, Slopiano is a overated bum. He Beat old men
and lightheavyweights.

[hellfire508]

God everytime I read the initial post I laugh.

"Didnt fight anyone special? Rocky Marciano has one of the most impressive resumes in any divisions history." -- Bull****. There are tens, and tens of fighters that have better resumes. Harry Greb, Muhammad Ali, Ezzard Charles, Sam Langford, Benny Leonard, Ray Leonard, Emile Griffith, Jimmy McLarrin, Henry Armstrong, Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Barney Ross, Lou Ambers, Sam Angott... the list goes on. Their resumes are brilliant.

-Archie Moore -------------- Recognized as top 5 -- top 5 what? P4P? By some perhaps, not by me. P4P has little bearing on how great a win is for a fighter. Moore was old against Marciano, he was definately prime at LHW, where he was brilliant.

-"Jersey" Joe Walcott twice - One of the top 10 - Top 10 what? Heavyweights? ROFL! No. Personally, I rank him 15th. Marciano beat him in his last two fights, after Walcott had been fighting for 23 years.

-Joe Louis ------------------ Recognized as best boxer in history -- Really? Since when? Last time I checked, the seemingly unanimous general conception was that Robinson was the best? I have Louis outside the top 10. Plus, Louis was just a shell of his former great self. A solid contender at that time, nothing more.

-Phil Muscato
-Freddie Beshore[I] - these two mean what?

-Harry "Kid" Matthews - Nothing brilliant.

-Ezzard Charles (Twice) - Excellent fighter, but best weight was 175. Still, excellent fighter.

-Roland LaStanza (Twice) --- One of the top five chins in history -- Is this a joke? Where do you pull these "facts"? Cobb, Chuvalo, McCall, Ali, Chavez, Hagler, Monzon, Lamotta....

Nice facts.

[hellfire508]

***NOTE: I just read my post, and it came across a little harsh. Marciano's resume is excellent, no doubt. A great resume. Just not as great as this tool was making out.

[Mike Tyson77]

49-0



And 1!

[micky_knox]

nobody can argue with a perfect record...........not one single person........
its ludicrous to even suggest rocky wasnt a great fighter

[Mike Tyson77]

nobody can argue with a perfect record...........not one single person........
its ludicrous to even suggest rocky wasnt a great fighter

Thank you brother! Rocky isnt my #1 favorite fighter, but I dont deny his greatness.

[platinummatt]

He seemed to have a very consistent style, sending out continuous single punches, did he throw many combos? its got to be annoying having a fighter who never steps away and is always throwing single shots at you. Its probably a good way for him to reserve energy too

[micky_knox]

Thank you brother! Rocky isnt my #1 favorite fighter, but I dont deny his greatness.

np m8

he isnt my favorite either but i think its damn disrespectful to try and say he wasnt great.....nobody could beat him....what more can you ask from the guy?
larry holmes cryed like a baby when he couldnt beat the rocks record and it seems a lot of people here feel the same.........rockys record will stand for a long time

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Marciano was a great fighter easily top10
for many top5
for a few top3

Marciano wasn't tested to his full capability, plain and simple...You can say what you want about Marciano's opponents but none of them really FAIRLY had him beat....

His toughest fight was probably Walcott I and Walcott was doing well, Walcott was a very hard hitter, quick, and good footwork...This was also a prime Walcott fighting...They were relatively even (I had Walcott ahead by 2 rounds or so going into the 6th round)...Then Rocky got something in his eyes, Rocky fought completely blind for 4 rounds...He did relatively good for being blind but not near as good as he could have. After this Walcott was ahead on points by a great margin (about 6 rounds)..So Marciano Knocked him out....

Marciano didn't fight an age where good fighters were in great supply like 40's or 60's and 70's...Alot of old fighters were getting up in age, though still dangerous not as good as they once were....These fighters however are not to be counted out they were still dangerous and very good fighters...

Guys Rocky fought in there prime-
Jersey Joe Walcott
Roland Lastarza
Rex Layne
and I'd venture to say Don ****ell....

Other fighters who were "past there prime" but still very good contenders-

Joe Louis- only lost once during his comeback besides Marciano (Ezzard Charles)

Ezzard Charles- He wasn't "Prime" but he sure wasn't far off it, he still had plenty of gas to fight and his skills were still that of his previous self.....

Archie Moore-Possibley the greatest light heavyweight of all time- he also has the most KO's of anyone in any weight class. He wasn't prime when he fought Marciano but trust me he was far from over the hill...Moore would go on to fight for almost ten more years and only losing three times more and drawing two times...He was prime as a light heavy but as a Heavy he was more then dangerous...

What do you want from the guy..He fought everybody they put in front of him and never lost...Not many people could have done that put in Rocky's shoes-

Some of his Handicaps that other fighters didn't have-
He didn't even start training to be a boxer until he was 20

Before boxing he was a heavy smoker and overweight

He only had 12 amateur fights before being thrown into the Professional circuit most fighters have more then 30...

Marciano was aware that since August 1949, he fought with a ruptured disc in his back. Since 1951 he suffered from an arthritic right elbow. The condition left his right arm slightly shorter than his left. This all eventually led to his retirement in 1956.

so many fighters under these conditions (yes including Muhammad Ali) would not have gone 49-0...

[butterfly1964]

I'd say 5 but w.e

I can't name any that put in Marciano's shoes would have been 49-0

I mean the guy was 8-4 as an amateur- Ali was 100-1

I mean Ali had alot longer then Marciano to develop his skills...As did many others, and on top of that Marciano didn't even box until he was in his 20's, and before he began he was overweight and a heavy smoker so...

Clay lost 8 fights as an amateur.