Strongest fighter ever lived

[Pugnacious_Z]

Foreman is a Machine, I still say he is stronger than Mariusz.

get your head out of your ****ing ass, mariusz would literally throw around a Prime Foreman which weighed 220lbs. mariusz is like 290 pounds and 6ft tall while Foreman was 220lbs and 6ft 3. Foreman was just a boxer, which meant he was real good at punching, ofcoarse the STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD will be ALOT stronger then a guy who didnt lift weights. And i mean throw him around in a wrestling match, not a boxing match, cause a boxing match isnt about physical strength.

[hemichromis]

what about the difference between natural strength and strength from weightlifting i can and do easily overpower a guy who can bench almost 600lbs hes more than twice as strong as me in the gym and yet in the ring i am stronger

[hemichromis]

ali was strong but he was also smart, he didn't try to overpower foreman because it is pointless however when ali needed to he could tie up foreman or liston quite easily

[Heckler]

Lennox Lewis was pretty damn strong

Lennox Lewis was pretty damn big. For his size i personally think his strength was average, he could not muscle Holyfield around the ring... then again Holyfield is extremely strong for his size.

[Pugnacious_Z]

what about the difference between natural strength and strength from weightlifting i can and do easily overpower a guy who can bench almost 600lbs hes more than twice as strong as me in the gym and yet in the ring i am stronger

hey mate, what do u think natural strength is? srsly, do u think its some type of magical power or something. the reason why your overpowering this 600lb bencher in the ring is coz he prob sux at boxing and gets tired eeasly therefore you can push him around. go against that guy in a wrestling match and then you'll see how quick hell put u down. and one more thing, benching is only chest and tri muscles, doesnt mean the person is stronger then u coz he benches more. you have to see overall strength like legs, back, shoulders and core

[LondonRingRules]

I've never really seen muhammad ali really manhandled either. even by foreman.

** Then I suggest you watch his Foreman fight because Foreman punched Ali all around the ring and brutalized him against the ropes.

[butterfly1964]

** Then I suggest you watch his Foreman fight because Foreman punched Ali all around the ring and brutalized him against the ropes.

i'm talking about in terms of outmuscling him in the clinches.

[Kid Achilles]

George did that too though. Ali proved himself to be reasonably strong, I mean Foreman couldn't shove him away as easily as he did Frazier, but Foreman was definitely the stronger man in that fight.

[hemichromis]

hey mate, what do u think natural strength is? srsly, do u think its some type of magical power or something. the reason why your overpowering this 600lb bencher in the ring is coz he prob sux at boxing and gets tired eeasly therefore you can push him around. go against that guy in a wrestling match and then you'll see how quick hell put u down. and one more thing, benching is only chest and tri muscles, doesnt mean the person is stronger then u coz he benches more. you have to see overall strength like legs, back, shoulders and core

naa what i mean is he i sstronger in the benchpress position but i can overpower him in other positions because he is only strong in the way he exercises

[SABBATH]

Then I suggest you watch his Foreman fight because Foreman punched Ali all around the ring and brutalized him against the ropes.

Butterfly has a point. Ali was able control Foreman in the clinches by pushing Foreman's neck down with his right hand while placing his his left glove in Foreman's armpit or tricep taking away Foreman's abilty to hit Ali with his free right hand. Foreman didn't manhandle Ali at all in the clinches and this is the topic at point. Functional strength and not punching power. Two different things.

Ali frequently tested his opponents strength early in fights by rough housing his opponents by pulling down on their neck. Chuvalo I and Bonevena fights are examples.

Ali looked in control against Foreman and was hardly brutalized in that fight unless you are talking about body punches. Foreman wasn't driving Ali back to the ropes with mid-ring exchanges. Instead Ali often willingly went to the ropes where he was comfortable fighting as he so often did this in training sessions against sharp shooting sparring partner Larry Holmes and the heavy handed Roy Williams. The truth is, the Foreman fight resembled an Ali sparring session when Ali used to work on fighting off the ropes and coming off throwing shots near the end of each round.

Foreman did hit Ali alot to the body but Ali also deflected and muffled many punches with his forearms, elbows and gloves, and made Foreman miss head shots by timing them and pulling back. Foreman never had great balance and often reached and followed through with his power shots which caused him to fall forward in that fight ending up on top of Ali each time Ali pulled back from a missed punch.

It's interesting that Ali never considered Foreman one of his 10 toughest opponents.