How much does that 50lbs of muscle matter between HW of the 80s and now?

[juggernaut666]

I never claimed they look like the 80s guys. I claimed fighters started getting out of shape starting in the late 80s and today the heavyweight division is damn near a sumo wrestling match. Nowhere did I say they look alike, I said it got worse over time. This can be linked to 12 rdrs becoming the rule instead of 15s.

So you are going to ignore what I responded about Dempsey and Louis? I guess you can't really bounce back from how ****** you made yourself look there.

Witherspoon was NOT more effective at a heavier weight. He got knocked out in the first round by Smith. Also he did not hold the title when he fought Tubbs. I don't know how you missed that since he was the CHALLENGER!

I watched the Tyson-Tubbs fight last night and they talked extensively about Tubbs weight issues pre fight. It was a pretty big deal and did NOT help his game. He was however fast for his weight. They even offered him $50,000 if he could come in at 235 or under.

Tubbs didn't throw no record against Witherspoon. Show me a reliable source that says he did.

Lol you are trying to talk **** about me looking up weights yet your sitting there looking up Witherspoons weight for the fight...hilarious

Just because someone knows how much two fighters weighed for a fight doesn't mean they know **** about boxing.

Are you going to respond to what I said about Arreola or are you going to duck that point as well because you got proved wrong yet again?

You're right about one thing Juggynutz...paper is harder to tear apart than your arguments!!!

"During the late 80s specifically we saw an increase in weight closer if not at the weights we see today. Most heavies weight 220s-230s. Do you even watch boxing? Guys didn't start weighing in heavier because they were naturally bigger than the guys in the 1970s who were the same height. Don't know how you missed that...probably because ydksab."

Your quote which is false ....you are a dope and the above shows that . Its obvious to any logical boxing enthusiast that each era has gotten bigger through natural growth of the previous generation which is always the case .

You didnt mention anything of getting out of shape late 80's ,you didnt provide proof of these overweight top guys today bc there is none unless you go outside the top 20 maybe ...... The 80's had excellent in shape guys you are too ignorant to see that weight doesnt coorelate to fighting shape all the time ive already gave you the heaviest guy in Tubbs who could throw for 15 rnds non stop . I didnt look up any weight so you just confirmed im that smart ,,,thanx .

Why dont you read the Witherspoon /Smith incedant instead of looking at wiki?

What about Arreola ? ,why dont you go on NSB and ask them the same questionnaire and see what a clown you look like more than now....

[Mr.MojoRisin']

"During the late 80s specifically we saw an increase in weight closer if not at the weights we see today. Most heavies weight 220s-230s. Do you even watch boxing? Guys didn't start weighing in heavier because they were naturally bigger than the guys in the 1970s who were the same height. Don't know how you missed that...probably because ydksab."

Your quote which is false ....you are a dope and the above shows that .

You didnt mention anything of getting out of shape late 80's ,you didnt provide proof of these overweight top guys today bc there is none unless you go outside the top 20 maybe ...... The 80's had excellent in shape guys you are too ignorant to see that weight doesnt coorelate to fighting shape all the time . I didnt look up any weight so you just confirmed im that smart ,,,thanx .

Why dont you read the Witherspoon /Smith incedant instead of looking at wiki?

What about Arreola ? ,why dont you go onNSB and ask them the same questionnaire and see what a clown you look like more than now....

Here is my quote:

Reason it has become the norm is because a few guys popped up on the scene in the 80s and weren't in the best of shape so the other guys figured they should "bulk up" too. Now the heavyweight division has become amateur sumo wrestling.

Now who's the dope? Still you Juggy.

I provided plenty of proof of these overweight guys. Read my post dumbass.

What the **** do you mean none of the top guys are out of shape? I provided 3 TOP guys in the division. Fury is the current champ and Povetkin is a former champ and still a top contender. Arreola fought for the title 3 times in the last 6 years!!! The exact definition of top guys.

Still dodging what I said about Dempsey and Louis which YOU brought up!

It must be really discouraging for you when you get owned every day on here.

[juggernaut666]

Here is my quote:



Now who's the dope? Still you Juggy.

I provided plenty of proof of these overweight guys. Read my post dumbass.

What the **** do you mean none of the top guys are out of shape? I provided 3 TOP guys in the division. Fury is the current champ and Povetkin is a former champ and still a top contender. Arreola fought for the title 3 times in the last 6 years!!! The exact definition of top guys.

Still dodging what I said about Dempsey and Louis which YOU brought up!

It must be really discouraging for you when you get owned every day on here.

You are bc that was your quote i posted!

What proof ?Arreola ? 6'9 250/ 255 Fury who cant get any lighter at that height and why would he ?

Povetkin through well over 500 punches his last fight in 2012 witgh Huck you clown.....

I dare you to post the same b.s about Arreola on NSB .......and

"Reason it has become the norm is because a few guys popped up on the scene in the 80s and weren't in the best of shape so the other guys figured they should "bulk up" too. Now the heavyweight division has become amateur sumo wrestling." :wank:


So let me get this straight a FEW 80's out of shape guys popped up and the rest said h "hey lets follow them " and thus began the downhill slide since and of TODAY in 2016 ? Even though you failed to name ONE actual top guy that would fit a FAT unfit ,gassing pugilist today?

WOW how dumb can one get ?

[Mr.MojoRisin']

You are bc that was your quote i posted!

What proof ?Arreola ? 6'9 250/ 255 Fury who cant get any lighter at that height and why would he ?

Povetkin through well over 500 punches his last fight in 2012 witgh Huck you clown.....

I dare you to post the same b.s about Arreola on NSB .......and

"Reason it has become the norm is because a few guys popped up on the scene in the 80s and weren't in the best of shape so the other guys figured they should "bulk up" too. Now the heavyweight division has become amateur sumo wrestling." :wank:


So let me get this straight a FEW 80's out of shape guys popped up and the rest said h "hey lets follow them " and thus began the downhill slide since and of TODAY in 2016 ? Even though you failed to name ONE actual top guy that would fit a FAT unfit ,gassing pugilist today?

WOW how dumb can one get ?

Fury can get lighter he is just too lazy to do it. You think he has a good work ethic? HA! ydksab but that isn't news to anyone...

You think Non Stop Boxing is full of people who know boxing? Dude you cannot get any dumber.

Nvm I was wrong. You just got a lot dumber. Povetkin was gassed as hell in the Huck fight. Everyone but you knows this!

I'll set you straight right here. During the late 80s fighters such as TONY TUBBS and others (Right here I am not saying it was only Tubbs) were weighing in around the 230-240s. This was a big change from the previous average of 215-220. Another change was 15 rdrs to 12 rdrs. This caused guys who were previously training for 15 rdrs and coming in lighter to train less and gain weight. Tyrell Biggs used to go by candy bars by the box during the 80s. Causing him to get out of shape and fat.

It just got worse and worse as time went on and now we have the current heavies.

What YOU are trying to say is that I said that heavies in the 1980s immediately gain 20 lbs and started coming in at 240. This is not at ALL what I am saying.

You're argument is worthless which is why you continue to try and change up the meaning of what I am saying.

Are you ever going to address what I responded about Dempsey and Louis?

Btw that isn't a middle finger you keep using in your posts it's fingers crossed dumbass.

[juggernaut666]

Fury can get lighter he is just too lazy to do it. You think he has a good work ethic? HA! ydksab but that isn't news to anyone...

You think Non Stop Boxing is full of people who know boxing? Dude you cannot get any dumber.

Nvm I was wrong. You just got a lot dumber. Povetkin was gassed as hell in the Huck fight. Everyone but you knows this!

I'll set you straight right here. During the late 80s fighters such as TONY TUBBS and others (Right here I am not saying it was only Tubbs) were weighing in around the 230-240s. This was a big change from the previous average of 215-220. Another change was 15 rdrs to 12 rdrs. This caused guys who were previously training for 15 rdrs and coming in lighter to train less and gain weight. Tyrell Biggs used to go by candy bars by the box during the 80s. Causing him to get out of shape and fat.

It just got worse and worse as time went on and now we have the current heavies.

What YOU are trying to say is that I said that heavies in the 1980s immediately gain 20 lbs and started coming in at 240. This is not at ALL what I am saying.

You're argument is worthless which is why you continue to try and change up the meaning of what I am saying.

Are you ever going to address what I responded about Dempsey and Louis?

Btw that isn't a middle finger you keep using in your posts it's fingers crossed dumbass.

your so out of wack its comical and sad...


you are suggesting on ONE guy Arreola( who isn't even relevant) is why todays era is out of shape ...the same thing would be said about Louis and Ali....Gallento/Mathis if we use your retartded criteria....


6'9 and under 250 wouldn't look good you don't know shyte about the body either apparently.....



By the way the hand motion indicates you have a VAGINA...SMH!

[Mr.MojoRisin']

your so out of wack its comical and sad...


you are suggesting on ONE guy Arreola( who isn't even relevant) is why todays era is out of shape ...the same thing would be said about Louis and Ali....Gallento/Mathis if we use your retartded criteria....


6'9 and under 250 wouldn't look good you don't know shyte about the body either apparently.....



By the way the hand motion indicates you have a VAGINA...SMH!

You literally just contradicted yourself in this post. First you said I am suggesting only one guy is the reason the division is out of shape then you say that I am suggesting that Tyson Fury is out of shape. Which one is it?

250 wouldn't look good at 6'9"? Is this a bodybuilding contest? He doesn't even look good ABOVE 250 lbs. LMAO!

Tyson Fury isn't 6'9. He is barely as tall as Vitali if that and Vitali is 6'7" UNDER 250 lbs. So in all actuality not only ydksab but you don't know **** about the human body either! Must be why you think guys have a twat!

[ShoulderRoll]

lamon brewster knocked wladimir klitshcko around the ring, and he was the exact dimensions of joe louis, just with about 10-15 extra lbs of fat around the waist and hips. maybe he had 3-5 extra lbs of muscle. maybe. and you saw what he did to wladimir's brains. scrambled them.

Interesting observation.

[juggernaut666]

You literally just contradicted yourself in this post. First you said I am suggesting only one guy is the reason the division is out of shape then you say that I am suggesting that Tyson Fury is out of shape. Which one is it?

250 wouldn't look good at 6'9"? Is this a bodybuilding contest? He doesn't even look good ABOVE 250 lbs. LMAO!

Tyson Fury isn't 6'9. He is barely as tall as Vitali if that and Vitali is 6'7" UNDER 250 lbs. So in all actuality not only ydksab but you don't know **** about the human body either! Must be why you think guys have a twat!

Not at all....and ive already proved to you a guy at 6'9 at 250/260 is NOT out of shape...can you point to any fight that shows this fury guy out of shape ...ANY fight??you were the one who named THREE ...and TWO of them are in shape which leaves ARREOLA...see you cant even add.... SMH


Who are these FEW 80's out of shape guys that started the collapse of Hw boxing as we know it? Are they of the illuminati?


your still a ******....you didn't even know what the cartoon represented suggested ,you even stated it was FINGERS CROSSED...I though of it b/c you post like a whiney Bytch!


Still waiting on that Arreola was top guy b/c he fought 3 x recently top guys on the NSB section? That's right you don't really believe that crap....maybe Corso does? lol


See you will find YOUR jumping from spot to spot everytime I prove you wrong ( yes ppl can read the prior posts,maybe you don't realize that ) ...that you will quickly runout of spots...and REAL quick!

[juggernaut666]

Interesting observation.

Its interesting b/c ithe STORY he tells never happened ....ANYONE watchiong the fight would see this ,however this section is special and makes its own reality which is actually some what appealing b/c its almost bizarro world in here....

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Not at all....and ive already proved to you a guy at 6'9 at 250/260 is NOT out of shape...can you point to any fight that shows this fury guy out of shape ...ANY fight??you were the one who named THREE ...and TWO of them are in shape which leaves ARREOLA...see you cant even add.... SMH


Who are these FEW 80's out of shape guys that started the collapse of Hw boxing as we know it? Are they of the illuminati?


your still a ******....you didn't even know what the cartoon represented suggested ,you even stated it was FINGERS CROSSED...I though of it b/c you post like a whiney Bytch!


Still waiting on that Arreola was top guy b/c he fought 3 x recently top guys on the NSB section? That's right you don't really believe that crap....maybe Corso does? lol


See you will find YOUR jumping from spot to spot everytime I prove you wrong ( yes ppl can read the prior posts,maybe you don't realize that ) ...that you will quickly runout of spots...and REAL quick!

You're the only one dodging all of my points and STILL haven't addressed my response to your asinine Dempsey/Louis statement.

Btw this isn't 1920 you ****ing neckbeard we don't cross our fingers when referring to vaginas....well maybe you do when you are hoping a woman will even look in your direction.