Hagler vs Duran - Was it a razor-thin decision?

[WalkerSmithJnr]

1/. Duran
2/. Hagler
3/. Duran
4/. Hagler
5/. Hagler
6/. Hagler
7/. Hagler
8/. Hagler
9/. Duran
10/. Duran
11/. Duran < Hagler gave away the round>
12/. Duran
13/. Duran
14/. Hagler
15/. Hagler

Score = 144-143 Hagler (Razor-Thin) decision

Hagler vs Duran was one of the easiest fights ever to score. The rounds Hagler won, he won clearly. The rounds Duran won, he won clearly.

You have Duran winning round 1 clearly??

I don't agree that Hagler gave round 11 away, he stayed on the outside and both fighters took a breather, again I can't see how you get that as a clear round for Duran.

Round 9 was clearly Hagler not even close.

[sonnyboyx2]

You have Duran winning round 1 clearly??

I don't agree that Hagler gave round 11 away, he stayed on the outside and both fighters took a breather, again I can't see how you get that as a clear round for Duran.

Round 9 was clearly Hagler not even close.

You need to take ping-pong as your chosen sport, because boxing is not for you buddy..

[billeau2]

how did you score 11,12,13

I thought they were toss ups...actally I thought Marvin won them but I gave the benefit of the doubt to Duran. I think I saw them as back and fourth.

[billeau2]

Bill, if you couldn't give Duran a round from 5th to 10, then that is Hagler 5rds up. You say you give Hagler 2 of the first 5rds, which is 7rds to Hagler. All in all you say he "Laid a beat down" On Duran.... Why not just say you had Hagler winning by a landslide?...

I did in the poll. But again, I can't score fights. I don't like to look microscopically at punches thrown in a round, I like to look at things that show more dominant facts, like who is pushing who back, who controls the action, and who is having more percieved effect on the opponent.

I just didn't see a place where Duran really lit Hagler up. I did see him connect occasionally, yet in the inside I saw Hagler do a lot of work and also with the jab.

[billeau2]

Legendary Hall of Fame referee and judge Artrhur Mercante, would score a boxing fight by breaking the round down, into three seperate minutes. That way he would always have a winner of the round and no drawn rounds... I have watched Hagler vs Duran many times over the years. But thought i would watch it again last night and here is my scorecard.

1/. Duran
2/. Hagler
3/. Duran
4/. Hagler
5/. Hagler
6/. Hagler
7/. Hagler
8/. Hagler
9/. Duran
10/. Duran
11/. Duran < Hagler gave away the round>
12/. Duran
13/. Duran
14/. Hagler
15/. Hagler

Score = 144-143 Hagler (Razor-Thin) decision

Hagler vs Duran was one of the easiest fights ever to score. The rounds Hagler won, he won clearly. The rounds Duran won, he won clearly. How can so many so called boxing experts, who frequent this forum, score the fight so one-sided in Marvin Hagler's favour?..

Here is a link from Ring Magazine. Who call the fight a "RAZOR-THIN" decision.

http://******.craveonline.com/news/3...ght-at-caesars

Actually this does not look so different from most of how I have it....if you score fights well you did a better job than I lol. You can make a case for this scorecard. But did you catch all the inside work of Hagler?

[sonnyboyx2]

I thought they were toss ups..

.actally I thought Marvin won them 

but I gave the benefit of the doubt to Duran. I think I saw them as back and fourth.

Those three rounds were Durans biggest rounds, yet you thought Marvin won them ? ....

Bill, if fighter A throws twelve light jabs which score during a round, fighter B makes fighter A miss two right-hands towards the end of the round and lands a left-right-left, which staggers fighter A at the bell......who wins the round in your opinion?

[rightsideup]

Legendary Hall of Fame referee and judge Artrhur Mercante, would score a boxing fight by breaking the round down, into three seperate minutes. That way he would always have a winner of the round and no drawn rounds... I have watched Hagler vs Duran many times over the years. But thought i would watch it again last night and here is my scorecard.

1/. Duran
2/. Hagler
3/. Duran
4/. Hagler
5/. Hagler
6/. Hagler
7/. Hagler
8/. Hagler
9/. Duran
10/. Duran
11/. Duran < Hagler gave away the round>
12/. Duran
13/. Duran
14/. Hagler
15/. Hagler

Score = 144-143 Hagler (Razor-Thin) decision

Hagler vs Duran was one of the easiest fights ever to score. The rounds Hagler won, he won clearly. The rounds Duran won, he won clearly. How can so many so called boxing experts, who frequent this forum, score the fight so one-sided in Marvin Hagler's favour?..

Here is a link from Ring Magazine. Who call the fight a "RAZOR-THIN" decision.

http://******.craveonline.com/news/3...ght-at-caesars

Interesting perspective on scoring.Mercante is held in high esteem by the boxing community. In Duran Leonard 1 I believe one judge declared even the winner of that classic.

[WalkerSmithJnr]

You need to take ping-pong as your chosen sport, because boxing is not for you buddy..

These 20,000 boxing films you have Soppyboy, you should actually watch a couple of them sometime you might learn something

[billeau2]

Those three rounds were Durans biggest rounds, yet you thought Marvin won them ? ....

Bill, if fighter A throws twelve light jabs which score during a round, fighter B makes fighter A miss two right-hands towards the end of the round and lands a left-right-left, which staggers fighter A at the bell......who wins the round in your opinion?

I don't follow the three rounds you are speaking about, but assuming the question you posed, the fighter who staggers the other would win...assuming they are "light" jabs especially.

Again I don't score fights well, I have a lot of respect for people who take the time to score carefully... Its entirely possible Duran staggered Haggler and I didn't notice it.

Ok I looked back and you are talking about the 11 12 and 13th I think. I thought the announcers were talking up Duran, when Hagler was doing a lot inside, but I could certainly see Duran winning two of those rounds...can't say I can see giving him all three, but hey! Someone who scores fights better is probably better informed on these points, i will watch them over again and get back to you to see what i see when I am watching them carefully.

[rightsideup]

I did in the poll. But again, I can't score fights. I don't like to look microscopically at punches thrown in a round, I like to look at things that show more dominant facts, like who is pushing who back, who controls the action, and who is having more percieved effect on the opponent.

I just didn't see a place where Duran really lit Hagler up. I did see him connect occasionally, yet in the inside I saw Hagler do a lot of work and also with the jab.

It would be interesting to know what Hagler did in preparation for the fight he seemed to have the tools you mentioned like the jab and infighting down quit well Duran seemed to throw him a curve by sometimes slipping that jab although he ate his fair share and countering at a distance.