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  • Ben Bolt
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    Unbiased Rankings

    Noticed more and more boxing sites adopt the Transworld Boxing Rankings Board in order to eliminate the greedy and unsportsmanlike alphabets orgs’ versions of “fair” rankings.

    Cliff Rold, who compiles the Boxing Forum rankings, is also a member of TBRB, so it wouldn’t be a huge step for the Boxing Scene site to refer to TBRB’s world rankings as the legitimate one.

    The more sites and mags which join in this, the closer we get to un unbiased ranking system and ‘one weight division-one champ’.
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    What makes the TBRB (such a horrible uncatchy name btw, but thats just a pet peeve of mine lol) the most unbiased rankings vs other rankings?

    I see people hyping them all the time, but rankings all seem subjective to me (outside of the rankings that matter in boxing for real, the alphabet rankings, which are the most bs rankings of anyone respected who's compiling rankings).

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    • Humean
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      #3
      Originally posted by Ben Bolt
      Noticed more and more boxing sites adopt the Transworld Boxing Rankings Board in order to eliminate the greedy and unsportsmanlike alphabets orgs’ versions of “fair” rankings.

      Cliff Rold, who compiles the Boxing Forum rankings, is also a member of TBRB, so it wouldn’t be a huge step for the Boxing Scene site to refer to TBRB’s world rankings as the legitimate one.

      The more sites and mags which join in this, the closer we get to un unbiased ranking system and ‘one weight division-one champ’.
      I can't imagine many boxing fans think that, for instance, the WBC's top 10 gives a measure of the actual top 10 in the division. All these rankings are biased because they all involve making judgements that are not solely based on facts. TBRB's rankings are simply the consensus of the judgements of a sample of journalists. Any possible move to having one champion per division is certainly not going to come by from boxing websites and fans acknowledging the TBRB as the one true rankings.

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        I'm not big on ratings, but TBRB seems as credible as anyone's. I'm familiar with many names on their board and they have a solid foundation. They certainly have more validity to me than Ring or any of the alphabet groups.

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          Yeah, I was actually surprised when Ring stripped Adonis Stevenson of the light heavyweight title. They did something right for a change. I guess they would need their own monthly publication, along with their own title belts handed out to the best to really gain credibility, no?

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          • Ben Bolt
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            The TBRB rating, if it continues to spread, will be hard to ignore for any promoter or TV company when launching a ‘world title’ fight. Viewers would know if they really are watching such one, or if it is merely an alphabet title bout.
            And the board can raise its credibility if more journalists/experts are allowed to join its rating panel (à la The Ring’s ratings in the early 1980s).

            What is the alternative? Well, we can go on like we do now, but then you have to accept that boxing with its countless ‘world champions’ will remain a laughing stock to the rest of the sports world.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Ben Bolt
              The TBRB rating, if it continues to spread, will be hard to ignore for any promoter or TV company when launching a ‘world title’ fight. Viewers would know if they really are watching such one, or if it is merely an alphabet title bout.
              And the board can raise its credibility if more journalists/experts are allowed to join its rating panel (à la The Ring’s ratings in the early 1980s).

              What is the alternative? Well, we can go on like we do now, but then you have to accept that boxing with its countless ‘world champions’ will remain a laughing stock to the rest of the sports world.
              F&*# yeah, exactly man. I hope it continues to spread and doesn't get bought out by a boxing promotion, like The Ring did.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Ben Bolt
                The TBRB rating, if it continues to spread, will be hard to ignore for any promoter or TV company when launching a ‘world title’ fight. Viewers would know if they really are watching such one, or if it is merely an alphabet title bout.
                And the board can raise its credibility if more journalists/experts are allowed to join its rating panel (à la The Ring’s ratings in the early 1980s).

                What is the alternative? Well, we can go on like we do now, but then you have to accept that boxing with its countless ‘world champions’ will remain a laughing stock to the rest of the sports world.
                I think everyone knows the status quo story with boxing, but what people or myself don't know is why are this group of peoples rankings are superior to other groups of peoples rankings? Any idiot who can buy a website can put their rankings on the internet, any slightly smarter idiot can get some people together & have a group who are pulled together to vote weekly or monthly on rankings. This isn't ground breaking stuff.

                And really I don't think more rankings or more champions are going to do a whole lot for the sport right now. There needs to be a deeper more structural change in the sport for a real change to be made with the status quo I don't think many fans like its just something many fans have grown to accept & can't see things changing very easily & certainly not with a group of guys with more rankings & more champions.

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                • Ben Bolt
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  And really I don't think ... more champions are going to do a whole lot for the sport
                  As several boxing sites, including some of the biggest, have chosen to refer to the TBRB rankings, it could be a start to clean up the muddle that the boxing orgs have brought to the sport.

                  It's not about recognizing more champions, as you put it, but less.
                  If you look at the World champs TBRB recognizes today, their names are hardly arguable.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ben Bolt
                    As several boxing sites, including some of the biggest, have chosen to refer to the TBRB rankings, it could be a start to clean up the muddle that the boxing orgs have brought to the sport.

                    It's not about recognizing more champions, as you put it, but less.
                    If you look at the World champs TBRB recognizes today, their names are hardly arguable.
                    I just don't see what the TBRB does thats different or better from most others who rank boxers. And mostly I don't think the TBRB can change anything with merely throwing out rankings every months cuz so many are throwing out rankings &/or have "champions".. Something bigger needs to happen than a bunch of boxing nerds sitting around deciding who's the 6th best junior featherweight. You need skin in the game to change things.

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