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  • #11
    Originally posted by BKM-2010 View Post
    1-The phantom punch. That was actually legit and one of the greatest punches ever imo.
    2-Ali laid on the ropes untill Foreman punched himself out.
    3-Foreman did not punch with his whole body. Puhlease.
    4-Dempsey loading his gloves. This came from Willard who claimed that his team found a piece of metal on the canvas after the fight. Oh it MUST have been from Dempsey and couldn't have been something else lol.
    5-The glove controversy in Clay-Cooper
    6-WEpner 'knocking Ali down' or even supposedly giving him a tough fight. No and no.

    Hmm a lot of myths surrounding Ali. Happens when you're bigger than life I guess.
    Good points all round, although he did lay on the ropes A LOT during the fight but he also landed beautiful, crisp counter right hands.

    The glove controversy around the Cooper fighter is ridiculous, Cooper and his son both said that it probably gained Ali maybe an extra 5 seconds max, rather than the minutes people gossip about lol

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    • #12
      Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
      4 Jack Johnson was afraid of Sam Langford.
      He might not have been afraid but he certainly avoided him after he got bigger and Johnson no longer had a ridiculous weight advantage.

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      • #13
        1. rigo is god.

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        • #14
          Good ones, but these really aren't YOUR myths now are they, guys? I mean, that is the title of the thread. As for me, the only myths about me I can think of are people saying I don't work hard enough, but people who know me best know otherwise.

          Great boxing myths though.

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          • #15
            That boxing needs as many weight divisions as it has

            That Muhammad Ali should be #1 or high among ATG HW's, he was the Greatest Marketer (or at least 2nd to Mayweather), Not the Greatest HW

            That fighters are the #1 source of fights not happening when they are the least powerful entity in the fight making decision flow

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            • #16
              Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
              1 Duran knocked a horse cold with one punch. (It was a combination).

              2 Joe Louis only started using coke once his career was over.

              3 Ho'kins is a top 5 AT middleweight.

              4 Jack Johnson was afraid of Sam Langford.

              5 Robinson was afraid of Burley
              Excellent choice. Durans combination was drunkenness and the horse may have been a donkey

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              • #17
                Rounds can't be even and fights can't be draws - of course they can!

                Every fast handed fighter is "technically skilled".

                Antonio Margarito used plastered wraps in multiple fights.

                One fighter's injury pain and recovery translates exactly the same on another fighter with a similar injury.

                Oscar De La Hoya won ALL of the first 8 rounds of the Trinidad fight.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Barn View Post
                  He might not have been afraid but he certainly avoided him after he got bigger and Johnson no longer had a ridiculous weight advantage.
                  Langford has been one of my favorites since childhood when I read about him. I wonder if Langford really was unable to come up with the $30,000 deposit, as Johsnon claims?

                  Jack Johnson was suicidally brave, but he could also reason. He understood he had to fight mostly white men after he was champion. The only black he took on during that time was Jim Johnson, certainly the weakest of all the Black Dynamite fighters. His token negro was not to be Sam Langford. Johnson was looking to capitalize. Besides, he had been fighting Black Dynamite for years and beaten them all. What was he himself? Black dynamite. It was not Langford who chased Burns all over the world, though he had the opportunity as well as Johnson did.

                  If the white men could not have a white champion, Sam Langford would have been their first choice. He was not a braggart who crossed every racial barrier, but a gracious and humble man who would not stir the waters.

                  Johnson was not going to give them this either, is my theory. Technically, that would be purposeful avoidance. The reason for the avoidance is played into by all the social conditions of the time clashing with the personality of the man that was Jack Johnson, and has little to do with a fear of Langford. Sam did have a much better chance than Jim Johnson had, though, and Jack had to recognize this also. Still, I don't hink he gave Langford much chance of beating him, and he was not going to give the white men even that much.

                  Bottom line was he could make more money fighting white fighters with no chance to beat him, and take less heat for it. And even Johnson liked less heat than he usually got.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                    Rounds can't be even and fights can't be draws - of course they can!

                    Every fast handed fighter is "technically skilled".

                    Antonio Margarito used plastered wraps in multiple fights.

                    One fighter's injury pain and recovery translates exactly the same on another fighter with a similar injury.

                    Oscar De La Hoya won ALL of the first 8 rounds of the Trinidad fight.
                    8 rounds? I heard it was the first 7 rounds. Some say 9, which is what Oscar must have believed as he ran the last 3 rounds.

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