Most Boring Champs

[BennyST]

You was still in diapers back in 94 so you know nothing on the subject.. The official fight program for Lewis vs McCall (1) Wembley Arena September 1994 which was printed by Lewis promotional Company Panix Promotions.. clearly states how Lewis vs Sanders is in the making for 95, Sanders fought Garing Lane on the fight card ...

Nice try rentboy but once again i bend you over and give you a stiff talking too.....

Oh man...this is great. What are you talking about?!? You really don't have the slightest clue do you. Poor little tyke. You're so deluded I think you might actually believe the bull**** you spout. I love your little fantasy make up Sonny world though.

Not only have you just contradicted your own argument by saying that Lewis was trying to set up a fight with Sanders in '95 by being on a card together in '94, thus completely ruining your theory that Lewis was ducking him since '94 as you just said yourself he was in fact planning to fight him, but everything you just said is horse****.

Wanna know why? Well, I'l, tell you because you're clearly lying out your ass but trying to look like you know what you're talking about. Nothing unusual there though. Sanders and Lane were post main event filler. They were two nothing guys just there to fill out the card after the main event when everyone was leaving. Sanders wasn't on as a double promotion. It was the Lewis/McCall 1 main event for the title, and Lewis had already been in long negotiations to fight either Moorer or Bowe in '95 you ******ed imbecile. Sanders wasn't anywhere on any horizon for a fight with Lewis in '95 because the Bowe Superfight had already been signed for '95 on condition of Lewis beating McCall.

Sanders had nothing to do with anything regarding Lewis, just like Kevin McBride, who was also on the same card, had nothing to do with Lewis.

The Bowe fight was cancelled and Lewis then tried to get the rematch with McCall for '95. It was not a double promotion to set up a fight with Sanders because Lewis was already signed out for '95 well in advance.



First you defeat your own argument through plain ******ity, then annihilate it through complete ignorance and some fantasy make up fights world that only you live in. Get a grip you silly prick and stop lying. It's pathetic.

[sonnyboyx2]

Oh man...this is great. What are you talking about?!? You really don't have the slightest clue do you. Poor little tyke. You're so deluded I think you might actually believe the bull**** you spout. I love your little fantasy make up Sonny world though.

Not only have you just contradicted your own argument by saying that Lewis was trying to set up a fight with Sanders in '95 by being on a card together in '94, thus completely ruining your theory that Lewis was ducking him since '94 as you just said yourself he was in fact planning to fight him, but everything you just said is horse****.

Wanna know why? Well, I'l, tell you because you're clearly lying out your ass but trying to look like you know what you're talking about. Nothing unusual there though. Sanders and Lane were post main event filler. They were two nothing guys just there to fill out the card after the main event when everyone was leaving. Sanders wasn't on as a double promotion. It was the Lewis/McCall 1 main event for the title, and Lewis had already been in long negotiations to fight either Moorer or Bowe in '95 you ******ed imbecile. Sanders wasn't anywhere on any horizon for a fight with Lewis in '95 because the Bowe Superfight had already been signed for '95 on condition of Lewis beating McCall.

Sanders had nothing to do with anything regarding Lewis, just like Kevin McBride, who was also on the same card, had nothing to do with Lewis.

The Bowe fight was cancelled and Lewis then tried to get the rematch with McCall for '95. It was not a double promotion to set up a fight with Sanders because Lewis was already signed out for '95 well in advance.



First you defeat your own argument through plain ******ity, then annihilate it through complete ignorance and some fantasy make up fights world that only you live in. Get a grip you silly prick and stop lying. It's pathetic.

I love it how angry you get replying to my posts... You have been and checked boxrec then made your attack... LOL. Well as always you are wrong. your wrong and i am once again right. I was there at Wembley Arena on the night and Sanders vs Lane was NOT fought AFTER Lewis vs McCall, it was fought immediately before. It was a fight that Panix Promotions was using to make the future match-up of Sanders vs Lewis.. otherwise why make that claim in the official fight program?...

Your a joker who knows nothing about boxing. You will never beat me on knowledge of this sport as long as you live you horrible little ****sucker.

[nivek535]

Boredom is a matter of tase, friend, like I said previously. Some people are disgusted by lobster, some would not think of a steak. What can you do, accuse their tongues of ignorance? I fully do not expect everyone to agree with me on who is boring, but I know some will.

Furthermore, it is probably not a good idea to defend who one thinks is boring, since it is strictly taste. Some people adore lobster and will not be talked out of it by PETA, etc.

I was very excited by RJJ early in his career. He disappointed me with a lot of talk and then throwing 10-15 punches per round.

On the other hand, iron Mike was the most exciting fighter since Duran. I was in his corner (figuratively speaking) from day one, but by the time of Holyfield was rooting for the real deal, due to unacceptable behavior from Mike. It does not matter that I no longer liked Mike, I still loved to see him in the ring, still considered him one of the most exciting fighters of all time. He was the opposite of boring.

Now, as for Jones, no need to detail what bored me. Those who know understand and those who do not never will. I was no longer happy to tune in merely to see his talent on display. Most people tuned in for the talent. They could not get over his talent. I admit it was hard to get over. I am not sure I ever did. But it is easy to get over someone who squanders their talent or fulfills it only halfway, because there is always the beck and call of those who fulfilled their promise, like Gauss, Picasso, Robinson and Yeats. Boxing is a small part of the world. When it is boring, the other parts call.

Recently I was compelled to review Jones fights because of debates right here on this forum. It was a task I hope never to repeat. I do not think Roy was as boring as his one time pal Gainer, one of the most boring in the history of the sport IMO based, I admit, on only two or three fights of his I watched. But he (Roy) was no Gauss, Picasso, Robinson or Yeats, either. I think he should have been. I think he should have been Michael Jordan instead of Meadowlark Lemon.

okay fair enough. that makes sense

[Anthony342]

I couldn't name most boring fighters, as I usually change the channel before I learn their names. Believe it or not, I didn't find a lot of Duran's earlier fights that exciting until well into his lightweight run. The Buchanan fight I liked, too bad it ended on a foul. Like some fights after that but got more into his career when he moved up to fight guys like Leonard, Moore, Hearns, Hagler, even stuck around long enough to challenge Joppy.

I used to actually find Hopkins dull, but now like him because of his boxing smarts and dominance at middleweight and success at light heavy at an advanced age. I also used to not like anyone who didn't knock out most opponents but then learned to appreciate guys like Leonard, Mayweather, Whitaker. Actually, I just thought of one, since he used to be featured on HBO a lot. Shannon Briggs. The guy was lucky to win the lineal heavyweight title and I was glad when he lost it. Always found him dull though. I can't believe he's actually trying to get a fight with Wlad. I don't know what he's ranked, but that fight would sure suck.

A few years ago, I couldn't watch many full fights live, but have more patience now and can sit through most new full fights live, as I've become more interested in the sport.

[BennyST]

I love it how angry you get replying to my posts... You have been and checked boxrec then made your attack... LOL. Well as always you are wrong. your wrong and i am once again right. I was there at Wembley Arena on the night and Sanders vs Lane was NOT fought AFTER Lewis vs McCall, it was fought immediately before. It was a fight that Panix Promotions was using to make the future match-up of Sanders vs Lewis.. otherwise why make that claim in the official fight program?...

Your a joker who knows nothing about boxing. You will never beat me on knowledge of this sport as long as you live you horrible little ****sucker.

You think I get angry?

I think baffled, staggered and amused with a little pity thrown in the mix is what I feel when I read your posts, but I certainly don't ever get angry. Stunned amazement that such stubborn ******ity exists? Yeah, sure. Angry over you though?

Mate, why even make up this stuff? Are you one of those weird little pathological liars that just can't help themselves or what? What is it?

I didn't need to check boxrec, because I remember very well the Lewis/Bowe saga and I remember that Lewis had to beat McCall because the Bowe fight was already signed in advance. Everything already worked out for the huge 1995 Superfight at heavyweight. I don't give a **** what you think your ****ty memory vaguely thinks it remembers because it's flat out wrong if you're not just plain making up a bunch of horse****. Sanders wasn't promoted for that bill to fight Lewis because the McCall fight was a tune up for an already signed fight with Bowe. That's just a plain fact. There is no arguing it. That's factual history with evidence to back it up. Sanders wasn't going to fight Lewis in '95 and there was no ducking because he wasn't in the mix to even be ducked.

Just the fact that you think you remember the subtitle from a flyer of a fight well over twenty years ago is embarrassing to say the least, but the fact you're trying to use that as your proof that you're right? You know that stunned amazement that such ******ity exists that I was talking about before? Guess what I'm feeling right now?

Even if you were there, and you werent because you just lie for the sake of lying, you don't remember the subtitle to the fight flyer that you saw on the wall over twenty years ago. What else happened that night? UFO's came down and beamed you up into their ship, and they all had heads like Lewis and they probed you, thus begun your Lewis hate?

Boxrec not necessary in this particular case, but I certainly don't mind admitting that I use boxrec when I need to. Is that meant to be an insult? That's the point of the ****ing thing you idiot!

It's a fight encyclopaedia. Why would a fight fan not use it to look stuff up and why would you think that's an insult? You wanna insult me for reading books or checking facts next because you're too thick too read? Christ almighty....

Maybe if you read something once in a while instead of just spouted nonsense you'd actually get a bit of respect.

[Scott9945]

You think I get angry?

I think baffled, staggered and amused with a little pity thrown in the mix is what I feel when I read your posts, but I certainly don't ever get angry. Stunned amazement that such stubborn ******ity exists? Yeah, sure. Angry over you though?

Mate, why even make up this stuff? Are you one of those weird little pathological liars that just can't help themselves or what? What is it?

I didn't need to check boxrec, because I remember very well the Lewis/Bowe saga and I remember that Lewis had to beat McCall because the Bowe fight was already signed in advance. Everything already worked out for the huge 1995 Superfight at heavyweight. I don't give a **** what you think your ****ty memory vaguely thinks it remembers because it's flat out wrong if you're not just plain making up a bunch of horse****. Sanders wasn't promoted for that bill to fight Lewis because the McCall fight was a tune up for an already signed fight with Bowe. That's just a plain fact. There is no arguing it. That's factual history with evidence to back it up. Sanders wasn't going to fight Lewis in '95 and there was no ducking because he wasn't in the mix to even be ducked.

Just the fact that you think you remember the subtitle from a flyer of a fight well over twenty years ago is embarrassing to say the least, but the fact you're trying to use that as your proof that you're right? You know that stunned amazement that such ******ity exists that I was talking about before? Guess what I'm feeling right now?

Even if you were there, and you werent because you just lie for the sake of lying, you don't remember the subtitle to the fight flyer that you saw on the wall over twenty years ago. What else happened that night? UFO's came down and beamed you up into their ship, and they all had heads like Lewis and they probed you, thus begun your Lewis hate?

Boxrec not necessary in this particular case, but I certainly don't mind admitting that I use boxrec when I need to. Is that meant to be an insult? That's the point of the ****ing thing you idiot!

It's a fight encyclopaedia. Why would a fight fan not use it to look stuff up and why would you think that's an insult? You wanna insult me for reading books or checking facts next because you're too thick too read? Christ almighty....

Maybe if you read something once in a while instead of just spouted nonsense you'd actually get a bit of respect.

Correct!

[LacedUp]

I love it how angry you get replying to my posts... You have been and checked boxrec then made your attack... LOL. Well as always you are wrong. your wrong and i am once again right. I was there at Wembley Arena on the night and Sanders vs Lane was NOT fought AFTER Lewis vs McCall, it was fought immediately before. It was a fight that Panix Promotions was using to make the future match-up of Sanders vs Lewis.. otherwise why make that claim in the official fight program?...

Your a joker who knows nothing about boxing. You will never beat me on knowledge of this sport as long as you live you horrible little ****sucker.

He's right though. You clearly don't know anything about the situation. Just like you tried to claim Lewis was ducking Ruiz and Byrd

[BennyST]

Anyway, sorry to hijack the thread. Back to the topic at hand.

I find scrappy fighters very boring for some reason. A lot of people find them exciting, like Hatton, but I just find that style boring. I like pressure fighters that show skill, fight well inside ala early Duran, Fenech etc, but those guys that just maul scrappily and hold a lot like a wrestling match. The punch and grab...awful.

I've gotta say, although I like the guys outside the ring and appreciate what they do inside it, I find the Klit brothers painful to watch. Genuine cringe worthy painful. Some of Wlad's fights have been the worst I've ever seen in my life in a pro boxing ring. Vitali's had some better ones, but I find his style awful to watch for some reason. Very herky jerky, awkward and uncoordinated. The same feeling as watching the scrappy fighters.

[sonnyboyx2]

You think I get angry?

I think baffled, staggered and amused with a little pity thrown in the mix is what I feel when I read your posts, but I certainly don't ever get angry. Stunned amazement that such stubborn ******ity exists? Yeah, sure. Angry over you though?

Mate, why even make up this stuff? Are you one of those weird little pathological liars that just can't help themselves or what? What is it?

I didn't need to check boxrec, because I remember very well the Lewis/Bowe saga and I remember that Lewis had to beat McCall because the Bowe fight was already signed in advance. Everything already worked out for the huge 1995 Superfight at heavyweight. I don't give a **** what you think your ****ty memory vaguely thinks it remembers because it's flat out wrong if you're not just plain making up a bunch of horse****. Sanders wasn't promoted for that bill to fight Lewis because the McCall fight was a tune up for an already signed fight with Bowe. That's just a plain fact. There is no arguing it. That's factual history with evidence to back it up. Sanders wasn't going to fight Lewis in '95 and there was no ducking because he wasn't in the mix to even be ducked.

Just the fact that you think you remember the subtitle from a flyer of a fight well over twenty years ago is embarrassing to say the least, but the fact you're trying to use that as your proof that you're right? You know that stunned amazement that such ******ity exists that I was talking about before? Guess what I'm feeling right now?

Even if you were there, and you werent because you just lie for the sake of lying, you don't remember the subtitle to the fight flyer that you saw on the wall over twenty years ago. What else happened that night? UFO's came down and beamed you up into their ship, and they all had heads like Lewis and they probed you, thus begun your Lewis hate?

Boxrec not necessary in this particular case, but I certainly don't mind admitting that I use boxrec when I need to. Is that meant to be an insult? That's the point of the ****ing thing you idiot!

It's a fight encyclopaedia. Why would a fight fan not use it to look stuff up and why would you think that's an insult? You wanna insult me for reading books or checking facts next because you're too thick too read? Christ almighty....

Maybe if you read something once in a while instead of just spouted nonsense you'd actually get a bit of respect.

Oh Dear... talk about being baffled, staggered, amused at you making stuff up i am crying with laughter at your pathetic reply...

You NEED to put up some evidence now to redeem your credibility which is in tatters.. you need to put up evidence to show Lennox Lewis had signed a fight contract to defend his WBC Title in 1995 against former Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World Rid**** Bowe...

You are claiming a fight was already signed.. you are claiming that it is FACT

Now it is time for you to show this forum that FACT... a simple link will do.

I have stated to you how Lennox Lewis promotional Company Panix Promotions who printed the official Fight Program (not some flyer) but the official fight program which was on sale at Wembley Arena on fight night... which i bought and have at hand.. that program states how Corrie Sanders 24-1 (17)KOs was being lined up as a future opponent for Lennox Lewis..Which is why Sanders fought immediately before the main event Lewis vs McCall...The Fight Program holds all the evidence of which i claim, So any members of this forum who have the Lewis vs McCall (1) Fight Program can check it out and verify me as being correct and you as being wrong....

So whats it going to be Rentboy... are you going to put up your link or does that link not exist and you are going to admitt i am correct and you are once again wrong?....

:*******:

[sonnyboyx2]

He's right though. You clearly don't know anything about the situation. Just like you tried to claim Lewis was ducking Ruiz and Byrd

You need another hobby mate, because you know nothing about the sport of boxing... Lennox Lewis was STRIPPED of the IBF Belt for refusing to fight No1 contender Chris Byrd.. Lennox Lewis was STRIPPED of the WBA Belt for refusing to fight No1 Contender John Ruiz..

It is not me claiming Lewis ducked those two fighters.... it is "Carved in Stone" in the history of this sport that Lewis was stripped of those two belts..

Or maybe you are going to try to tell me Lewis gave the belt up for a car off Don King, or that what Rid**** Bowe done back in 1992 was because he was afraid of Lennox, but that Lennox and every boxing fan in the world did not want to see Lennox fight the best contenders, they wanted to see him fight Michael Grant & Frans Botha instead