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    Often i read of how Great Andrew Golota was. Golota the pole who fouled his way out of two bouts against a dreadful looking, completely shot` Rid**** Bowe. Which earned him his nickname, "The Foul Pole".. Golota had previously headbutted his opponent Samson Po'uha, tried to bite Danell Nicholson and quit against Michael Grant & Mike Tyson. Golota was knocked out in less than a minute by Lamon Brewster and in less than two minutes by Lennox Lewis. Golota's resume reads poor, but why is "Andrew Golota The foul Pole".. rated so highly by so many?

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    Somehow people believed that Golota's actions in the Bowe fight were because he was mentally ill, not because he was a coward which was the reality.

    People also somehow completely missed that almost every time he fouled Bowe, it was conveniently right after Bowe was landing some serious shots and putting him into trouble. The biggest disgrace was in the rematch where after he was knocked down and on the verge of getting stopped, he threw the vicious low blows to recover during time out.

    And yet people have this perception that Bowe had no chance against Golota and that Bowe was being completely dominated, and that he fouled him "for no reason" even though the reason was because he was in truoble and needed a time-out. It's a shame how boxing fans' perception of these fights is so distorted and that's why Golota's unfounded 'legacy' grew.

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      Theres no evidance to suggest Bowe was any better than Golota either ,Lou Duva was both Holyfield and Golotas trainer and said Golota was his strongest fighter...Foreman is also praised for not really beating anyone so its not really a question of how good was Golota ,obviously at one point he a top 90's fighter commiting fouls or not,thats not disputable anyone with two eyes can see he was.How good is the opinion .Bowe was clearly dominated twice the denial that he was exposed by a bigger guy is comical considering without aDQ win,he loses that fight.The only differance really between Bowe and Golota was ,Golata fought more than one top quality HW.
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-07-2015, 03:15 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
        Theres no evidance to suggest Bowe was any better than Golota either ,Lou Duva was both Holyfield and Golotas trainer and said Golota was his strongest fighter...Foreman is also praised for not really beating anyone so its not really a question of how good was Golota ,obviously at one point he a top 90's fighter commiting fouls or not,thats not disputable anyone with two eyes can see he was.How good is the opinion .Bowe was clearly dominated twice the denial that he was exposed by a bigger guy is comical considering without aDQ win,he loses that fight.The only differance really between Bowe and Golota was ,Golata fought more than one top quality HW.
        Oh really?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
          Often i read of how Great Andrew Golota was. Golota the pole who fouled his way out of two bouts against a dreadful looking, completely shot` Rid**** Bowe. Which earned him his nickname, "The Foul Pole".. Golota had previously headbutted his opponent Samson Po'uha, tried to bite Danell Nicholson and quit against Michael Grant & Mike Tyson. Golota was knocked out in less than a minute by Lamon Brewster and in less than two minutes by Lennox Lewis. Golota's resume reads poor, but why is "Andrew Golota The foul Pole".. rated so highly by so many?
          I don't think many rate him very highly. he had a tremendous amount of talent and all the tools but he was an example of how important the mental aspect of the game is. he was a mental midget and folded every time he got so much as a bit of resistance.. he had the tools to be a champion but not the mental makeup

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BKM-2010 View Post
            Somehow people believed that Golota's actions in the Bowe fight were because he was mentally ill, not because he was a coward which was the reality.

            People also somehow completely missed that almost every time he fouled Bowe, it was conveniently right after Bowe was landing some serious shots and putting him into trouble. The biggest disgrace was in the rematch where after he was knocked down and on the verge of getting stopped, he threw the vicious low blows to recover during time out.

            And yet people have this perception that Bowe had no chance against Golota and that Bowe was being completely dominated, and that he fouled him "for no reason" even though the reason was because he was in truoble and needed a time-out. It's a shame how boxing fans' perception of these fights is so distorted and that's why Golota's unfounded 'legacy' grew.
            I agree with this with regards to the rematch and other golota fights but that first fight with bowe he was totally dominating. I didn't see any indication that he was hurt at any time in that fight. he may have been getting tired later in the fight but he wasn't breathing that heavy and still had snap on his punches. he just folded with even the weeniest bit of resistance. credit to bowe tho as he showed he was the fighter with the much bigger heart but golota pretty much beat golota on that night

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            • #7
              Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
              Oh really?
              I think he means prior to frazier, much like Golata hadn't prior to Bowe.
              Or at least that's how I took it, to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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              • #8
                Guys like Golata and Judah are perfect examples of the saying "boxing is 10% physical and 90% mental"

                Some guys just don't have the mental aptitude

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                  Oh really?
                  Frazier was 20 pounds heavier from his normal 205 pound fight prime weight ,he obviously was not a prime fighter after 1971 ,like Tyson it was short lived ..,Foreman greatest win was to Moorer ,a guy who didnt defend his belt once and Foreman was battered in that fight despite the win,I dont know where you rank Foreman but defeating guys like Cooney and Mike Jameson doesnt do anything for me when hes praised usually in a top 3 spot for no reason other than he hits hard.When you actually break his record down its highly overrated.Yes hes an all time great for certain achievements but theres no way anyone is telling me hes a top 5 one.
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-08-2015, 01:42 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                    Frazier was 20 pounds heavier from his normal 205 pound fight prime weight ,he obviously was not a prime fighter after 1971 ,like Tyson it was short lived ..,Foreman greatest win was to Moorer ,a guy who didnt defend his belt once and Foreman was battered in that fight despite the win,I dont know where you rank Foreman but defeating guys like Cooney and Mike Jameson doesnt do anything for me when hes praised usually in a top 3 spot for no reason other than he hits hard.When you actually break his record down its highly overrated.Yes hes an all time great for certain achievements but theres no way anyone is telling me hes a top 5 one.
                    For once i agree with you here. Foreman is overrated and his resume is "padded" His victory over Frazier, is like you claim. Against a guy who had been on a World Tour with his Blues Band and was 20lbs overweight. Foreman's best win's were against George Chuvalo, Ken Norton & Ron Lyle. Yet those victories along with his victory over Michael Moorer for the title in 1994 at such an advanced age, entitle George Foreman to be very highly rated in historical terms. Foreman's punching power is there for all to see, he is a Top 5 biggest puncher in heavyweight history.

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