All Time Greatest Fighters by Division

[SlySlickSmooth]

Heavy - Ali

Light Heavy - Ezzard Charles

Middleweight - Carlos Monzon

Welterweight - Robinson

Lightweight - Duran

Featherweight - Saddler

[JimEarl]

I entered this thread with one mission and one mission alone, to raise the question about the 168lb division...

Why Froch and not Ward?

I think my top 3 for SMW would be,

Ward
Froch
Calzaghe

Wow I forgot the division when I made my list somehow.

What a tough bunch to choose from......And don't forget the ability of RJJ.

I wound up picking CalSlappy on the resume......after changing it 3 times, lol.

[BattlingNelson]

HW Ali
LHW Moore
MW Greb
WW Robinson
LW Gans
FW Pep

[IronDanHamza]

I entered this thread with one mission and one mission alone, to raise the question about the 168lb division...

Why Froch and not Ward?

I think my top 3 for SMW would be,

Ward
Froch
Calzaghe

It's either Ward or Froch.

Ward beat Froch and their resumes are comparable but I think Froch had the better resume of the two. Debatable.

They're without doubt #1 and #2 though.

[Ray Corso]

The most difficult comparisons for me are the Light Heavies, lots to consider.
Conn
Spinks
Langford
Tunney
Moore
Rosenbloom
Bivens
Loughran
Johnson
Charles
.........................hell I could think of a few more too, great division for ATG's
Some of my favorites;

Hvy---Joe Louis
LtHvy--Ezzard Charles
middle--Sugar Ray Robinson
welter---Sugar Ray Robinson
light---Ike Williams
feather--Willie Pep
bantam--Carlos Zarate'
fly--Pancho Villa

[JimEarl]

^^
Lightheavyweights ? Loaded division

1 - Ezzard Charles
2 - Bob Foster
3 - Michael Spinks
4 - Roy Jones Jr
5 - Dwight (Braxton) Muhammad Qawi
6 - Sam Langford
7 - Archie Moore
8 - Matthew (Franklin) Saad Muhammad
9 - Tommy Loughran
10- Harold Johnson
11- Gene Tunney
12- Billy Conn

[kiDynamite92]

I'll try;

Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield

Super Middleweight - Carl Froch

Jr Middleweight - Mike McCallum

Jr Welterweight - Julio Cesar Chavez

Jr Lightweight - Floyd Mayweather

Jr Featherweight - Wilfredo Gomez

Jr Bantamweight - Not sure

Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez

I entered this thread with one mission and one mission alone, to raise the question about the 168lb division...

Why Froch and not Ward?

I think my top 3 for SMW would be,

Ward
Froch
Calzaghe

It's either Ward or Froch.

Ward beat Froch and their resumes are comparable but I think Froch had the better resume of the two. Debatable.

They're without doubt #1 and #2 though.

I was waiting for this one as well. I really can't believe that Carl Froch' resume ranks so highly in history, if anything it shows no one accomplished much in this division ever. Who were Froch' best wins again? Bute? Kessler? So many morons on NSB are saying that Ward should move up to 175 but he should stay in 168 and beat Groves, Degale and Dirrell and bring some credibility to this division.

[kiDynamite92]

In terms of H 2 H

HW - Ali
CW - Holyfield
LHW - Charles
SMW - Jones Jr
MW - Hagler
SWW - Hearns
WW - Robinson

I don't know much about the lower weights so can't really comment.

[IronDanHamza]

I was waiting for this one as well. I really can't believe that Carl Froch' resume ranks so highly in history, if anything it shows no one accomplished much in this division ever. Who were Froch' best wins again? Bute? Kessler? So many morons on NSB are saying that Ward should move up to 175 but he should stay in 168 and beat Groves, Degale and Dirrell and bring some credibility to this division.

He's not.

You said it yourself, Super middleweight is a relatively new division, no historically deep.

[The Old LefHook]

The most difficult comparisons for me are the Light Heavies, lots to consider.
Conn
Spinks
Langford
Tunney
Moore
Rosenbloom
Bivens
Loughran
Johnson
Charles
.........................hell I could think of a few more too, great division for ATG's
Some of my favorites;

Hvy---Joe Louis
LtHvy--Ezzard Charles
middle--Sugar Ray Robinson
welter---Sugar Ray Robinson
light---Ike Williams
feather--Willie Pep
bantam--Carlos Zarate'
fly--Pancho Villa

I have seen your posts and like the way you reason. I am sure you could give a good account of why you think Ike Williams would have beaten Duran (since this is a who-beats-who list). I would find that interestiing.