who beat better competiton liston or marciano?

[dansweeney]

Folley, williams and machen were ****ing bums

[butterfly1964]

walcott and moore were in there primes.

charles of the 1st marciano fight was still better than anyone liston beat.

louis was well past it, but was still a formidable fighter



the 1950s version of louis is just as good as folley, williams and machen.

moore was 42, lol!

and prime floyd patterson was better than anyone marciano ever beat, so there you go.

[SuzieQ49]

moore was 42, lol!

and prime floyd patterson was better than anyone marciano ever beat, so there you go.

moore was 38! not 42, check ur facts son!


charles and walcott were better heavyweights than patterson IMO, however u can make a case for floyd. floyd is certainly an underated heavyweight. he rated in my top 20 all time heavies.



only reason why u think patterson was better is because he fought ali

[dansweeney]

moore was 42, lol!

and prime floyd patterson was better than anyone marciano ever beat, so there you go.

prime patterson had the chin of a welterweight idiot, marciano would have checked it faster than liston did. case closed

[butterfly1964]

moore was 38! not 42, check ur facts son!


charles and walcott were better heavyweights than patterson IMO, however u can make a case for floyd. floyd is certainly an underated heavyweight. he rated in my top 20 all time heavies.



only reason why u think patterson was better is because he fought ali

moore was either 39 or 42, cause his birth year is debated as either 1913 or 1916. most experts agree however that it is 1913, so he was 42.

i think floyd was better. look at who they fought and beat and how difficult it was. check out the power and speed of hands of patterson as opposed to walcott and charles.

patterson was better not cause he fought ali, but because he just was. if he didn't fight ali it would make no difference.

[butterfly1964]

prime patterson had the chin of a welterweight idiot, marciano would have checked it faster than liston did. case closed

and i guess walcott, charles, and moore have chins of stone, right?

[Yogi]

moore was either 39 or 42, cause his birth year is debated as either 1913 or 1916. most experts agree however that it is 1913, so he was 42.

The 1920 U.S. census came out a long time ago, Butterfly, and in that Moore's birthday was listed in Dec of 1916...The debate as to Moore's actual age was laid to rest a long time ago (every record that I see of Moore's nowadays list his birthday in Dec of 1916), and he was 38 at the time of the Marciano fight.

[hellfire508]

I'd say Marciano. Walcott, charles, Moore, Louis and LaStarza is a fine list of fighters. Liston beat Folley, Machen, Williams and Patterson. Also an excellent resume, however Marciano's takes the cake.

[hellfire508]

Folley, williams and machen were ****ing bums

Are you serious? Why did you draw this conclusion?

[butterfly1964]

Are you serious? Why did you draw this conclusion?

cause he doesn't know **** about boxing.