who beat better competiton liston or marciano?

[Da Iceman]

??????????????It doesn't say that on boxrec...

lol good one.

[SuzieQ49]

here are some of the journeyman/fringe contenders/young prospects that marciano and liston beat that were tough capable men who deserve respect



ill start off with marcianos list:



6'5 220lb johnny skhor - hard hitting journeyman heavyweight with a good jab. skhors biggest reupuation however was that he was a rough and tough fighter. shkor's biggest win was a 7th round stoppage in a huge upset over top ranked contender tami mauriello.



5'11 180lb Tiger Ted Lowry- One of the best journeyman of all time. Ted was the emanuel agustus of his day, a lot better than his record indicates. tiger ted was a cutie in there who had top notch defense and ring savvy. lowry clowned around too much and was way too cautious throughout his career.



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[SuzieQ49]

5'9 195lb freddie beshore- tough courageous journeyman who fought 100% everytime he went out there. beshores biggest claim to fame was fighting for the heavyweight title in 1950, he managed to last 14 rounds with ezzard charles.




6' 200lb Lee Savold- a fringe contender who was a highly experience veteran. savold was a good puncher and agressive infighter. he was also very tough and durable. savold once was a world class boxer, but his best days were behind him when he met rocky in 52.




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[SuzieQ49]

6'4 195lb over 80" reach Carmine Vingo- This 27-3 hard hitting 20 year old was a highly touted prospect. He had the size, power, youthness and heart to become a future world class fighter.




180lb phil muscato - 56-20 fringe contender who was ranked
# 10 heavyweight by RING in 1948.



6'1 200lb keene simmons- durable, strong, skilled boxer who was far better than his record indicated. Simmons lacked power, but he had good speed and boxing skills.

[QueensburyRules]

marciano beat 2 great heavyweights: ezzard charles and jersey joe walcott


liston beat 1 great heavyweight: floyd patterson



marciano beat 4 very good heavyweights/dangerous top contenders: Archie Moore, Roland Lastarza, Rex Layne, past prime Joe Louis



liston beat 3 very good heavyweights/dangerous top contenders: Eddie machen, cleveland williams, zora folley






IMO beating charles, walcott, moore, lastarza, past prime louis, layne are better wins than patterson, machen, williams, folley, mike de john, wayne bethea

- -Only the Brave, Foolish, or the Loony dared argue with SuzieQ back in the day, and alas, none survived to tell the tale that they whooped Miss Suzy.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Marciano easily.


But what does it matter? Marciano was dead-game. Liston was a fa.ggit