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Prime Ali vs Prime Marciano: Who wins?
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Originally posted by Elroy1 View PostI make mistake, maybe I shouldn't post after a few beersOriginally posted by greeh View PostAre you able to do something else than just spreading pathetic shyte in every single post?
All BS aside, I think it's wrong to write off Marciano so easily and call him a "poor mans Frazier".
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View PostChisora? Comon man, Marciano is light years above Chisora.
Chisora would stop Ali, Marciano and Frazier, probably on the same night if he had too. I don't need to explain why. He's a bigger, vastly superior boxer.
Marciano wouldn't even serve as chisoras sparring partner. He weighed 185!!!
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Originally posted by One more round View PostAre you kidding? Defence hadn't even been invented yet in marcianos time. Those guys were all rock em sock em robots with no chins and no power. Bums. Absolute bums who wouldn't even be given a pro licence today.
Chisora would stop Ali, Marciano and Frazier, probably on the same night if he had too. I don't need to explain why. He's a bigger, vastly superior boxer.
Marciano wouldn't even serve as chisoras sparring partner. He weighed 185!!!
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View PostYou can't be serious. The pool of talent was very deep when Marciano fought, on the contrary, champions today would be reduced to bums in his era not the other way around. Chisora woula have been a club fighter in those days, and size doesn't win fights, Ali would have his jabs slipped as Marciano comes in through low levels and with Ali being taller and taking risks, his body would be ripe for the beating. Marciano would cut off the ring and neutralize his arm reach and height advantage by breaking him down to the body while inside and shelling him with hooks and smother him with orchestrated power and ill intentions.
Chisora comes from one of the strongest eras of all time (objectively speaking, where all the evidence points, sans all funny business).
Marciano came from probably the weakest era of all time, objectively speaking as well.
Why? Because it was directly after the wars, all the prime stock for the HW division was thinned out due to war, it was a special case in history in which a 185lb face first mauler could dominate the division. Never before or never again could/would this occur unless there are similar circumstances in the future.
All of Marciano's decent opponents were over the hill or sub 200 as well. And of the several 200+ opponents he fought, none of them are "mentionworthy" to put it lightly.
Chisora would stop Marciano in a round or 2 and Ali would not last the distance with him like he did Frazier.
Chisora = underrated and it is actually disrespectful to consider a good boxer in 2014 against this criteria!
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Originally posted by Elroy1 View PostHe was being sarcastic, I wasn't.
Chisora comes from one of the strongest eras of all time (objectively speaking, where all the evidence points, sans all funny business).
Marciano came from probably the weakest era of all time, objectively speaking as well.
Why? Because it was directly after the wars, all the prime stock for the HW division was thinned out due to war, it was a special case in history in which a 185lb face first mauler could dominate the division. Never before or never again could/would this occur unless there are similar circumstances in the future.
All of Marciano's decent opponents were over the hill or sub 200 as well. And of the several 200+ opponents he fought, none of them are "mentionworthy" to put it lightly.
Chisora would stop Marciano in a round or 2 and Ali would not last the distance with him like he did Frazier.
Chisora = underrated and it is actually disrespectful to consider a good boxer in 2014 against this criteria!
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