Top 50 fighters last 30 years ie since 1984

[Sugar Adam Ali]

It was expected that it wouldn't be much feedback, and to judge by what that poster said, it might have been best that way since the same poster obviously doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Laciar had a good list of victims pre-1984, but his best run against quality opposition was from 1984 and forward, especially 84-87. A fine list of scalps with Zapata and Roman, his two best wins, and a second win over underrated Juan Herrera being the best ones.

When it then is wrapped up with victories over solid fighters as Cardona and Montero, you end up with a very respectable streak, and the best in his career.

I am not talking crap, Adam, and trust me - Laciar belongs in the list.

I know your not talking crap, your a human encyclopedia of fighters from the smaller weights and worldwide in any era it seems.. I deeply value your thoughts. When I have time I will update the list and add him..

[Sugar Adam Ali]

To irondan and holywarrior

My only point is that their resumes are very close, and Barrera beat morales 2 out of 3. I just think you have to factor in the 2 h2h wins for Barrera.. Both guys were at identical spots in their career for all 3. I don't see how you can't factor in Barrera beating morales twice, and then proclaim morales better.

Side notes-
Morales-Diaz was very close.. I did feel that morales did enough to win. I think I had it even with the kd giving morales a 114-113 win.. But sitting ringside, I was a tough fight to score sometimes because there was a lot of close action against the ropes.. I remember morales starting fast and getting a kd, but after 4 rounds Eric would just get backed into the ropes and let Diaz get off on him... It was very close the entire 2nd half but morales wasn't being an effective ring general and kept allowing Diaz to dictate the fight.. So I do think there is a case for Diaz winning, and i don't think it was a robbery.. Grant it, I only saw it live and never have watched a replay but from ringside, those were my thoughts...

[soul_survivor]

ok, moving away from the hwole MAB, Morales and JMM/McC argument, Adam, how the hell do you have Hill ranked above Hopkins? or is the list not in order ?

[jas]

SAA are you gonna put it in order?

[greeh]

I know your not talking crap, your a human encyclopedia of fighters from the smaller weights and worldwide in any era it seems.. I deeply value your thoughts. When I have time I will update the list and add him..

Great! I am very pleased to hear that, Adam.

And while you’re at it you should sneak Chang, Roman, Moon, Fenech and Sahaprom into the list. :hey:

By the way, when will you post an updated version of the list?

[greeh]

No.

**** off.

So Carbajal, Lopez and Chiquita should be on the list, but not Chang? What kind of logic is that?

[Holywarrior]

**** off.

So Carbajal, Lopez and Chiquita should be on the list, but not Chang? What kind of logic is that?

Like I said it's not even worth it to do a top 50, youre scraping the bottom barrelll doing so

[Holywarrior]

To irondan and holywarrior

My only point is that their resumes are very close, and Barrera beat morales 2 out of 3. I just think you have to factor in the 2 h2h wins for Barrera.. Both guys were at identical spots in their career for all 3. I don't see how you can't factor in Barrera beating morales twice, and then proclaim morales better.

Because Morales has more depth. Simple really.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

ok, moving away from the hwole MAB, Morales and JMM/McC argument, Adam, how the hell do you have Hill ranked above Hopkins? or is the list not in order ?

It's just fifty guys, no ranking order

SAA are you gonna put it in order?

Oh man, the debate is heated up enough with just naming 50 guys, let alone ranking them.. I'm already getting double team by irondan and holywarrior. Lol
Once we get a solid set list, I will start a new thread on ranking them..

Great! I am very pleased to hear that, Adam.

And while you’re at it you should sneak Chang, Roman, Moon, Fenech and Sahaprom into the list. :hey:

By the way, when will you post an updated version of the list?

Fenech I have added or soon will.. I believe roman has gotten discussed earlier but not sure, I will have to go back and read..
Make a case for Chang, moon, sahaprom,,, and tell which 3 guys you would drop.

Because Morales has more depth. Simple really.

Morales might have alittle more depth, but it's still really close

Great wins
Morales has 2 manny, Barrera
Barrera has 3 prince, morales, morales

I do agree though that morales has some more depth, I think the wins over junior jones, Chavez, famoso separate him abit from Barrera
Saying that, I still think Barrera is still a better fighter and proved it h2h..

[soul_survivor]

Finally agree with Adam, Barrera was better, resumes are close but Barrera had a better all round game and knew how to fight going back. Morales struggled when he was pressured, which was rare tbh lol