Top 50 fighters last 30 years ie since 1984

[soul_survivor]

Ok I'm gona post the top 20 names that come to mind, in no particular order:

1. Chavez Sr
2. Hopkins
3. Pacquiao
4. Whitaker
5. Jones Jr
6. Lewis
7. Holyfield
8. Barrera
9. Morales
10. Mayweather
11. Tyson
12. Oscar
13. Tito
14. Toney
15. Mosley
16. Calzaghe
17. Froch
18. Eubank
19. Wlad
20. Spinks

Missed out a few names and if I was actually listing them in order than Wlad, Froch and Mosley probably wouldn't make the top 20. They are however, all important names over the last 30 years or so.
It's a tough one, I'd probably rank SRL in top 10 cos his wins over Hagler and Duran are still better than what most guys have done. In fact, those two wins, even though Duran was faded, are greater than the whole of Barrera's career, not taking into account SRL managed to beat the much bigger Lalonde (admittedly catch weight) and the draw against a still game and hard hitting Hearns. All of these wins came at a time when Leonard was years past his best himself.

Hagler would probably be up there too, Duran would probably sneak into a top 30.

Hopkins, JOnes, Chavez, Pacquiao and Lewis/Holy/Whitaker would probably round off a top 5 imo.

[Holywarrior]

A top 25, in order for me.

1. Pernell Whitaker
2. Jones Jr
3. Holyfield
4.Mayweather
5.Pacquiao
6.Bernard Hopkins
7.Chavez Sr
8.Spinks
9.Delahoya
10.McCallum
11.Hearns
12.Nelson
13.Morales
14.Marquez
15.Barrera
16.Toney
17.Lennox
18.Tyson
19.Mosley
20.Trinidad
21.R. Lopez
22.Tszyu
23.Carl Froch
24.Mark Johnson
25. Joe Calzaghe

[soul_survivor]

A top 25, in order for me.

1. Pernell Whitaker
2. Jones Jr
3. Holyfield
4.Mayweather
5.Pacquiao
6.Bernard Hopkins
7.Chavez Sr
8.Spinks
9.Delahoya
10.McCallum
11.Hearns
12.Nelson
13.Morales
14.Marquez
15.Barrera
16.Toney
17.Lennox
18.Tyson
19.Mosley
20.Trinidad
21.R. Lopez
22.Tszyu
23.Carl Froch
24.Mark Johnson
25. Joe Calzaghe

Hopkins, Pacman, Chavez need to be higher. No way in hell should SPinks be above Oscar or Tito.

Froch and Johnson above Calzaghe???

Lewis below Toney? Really? LOL

MAB and Morales below McCullum?

I know lists are often subjective and there is variation between people but this just looks horrible.

I'll give it a go so I'm not just talking out my arse and am actually making an effort:

1. Chavez Sr.
2. Hopkins
3. Pacquiao
4. Whitaker
5. Lewis
6. Holyfield
7. Oscar DLH
8. Mayweather
9. Barrera
10. Trinidad
11. Tyson
12. Jones Jr.
13. Morales
14. Toney
15. Leonard
16. Hagler
17. Calzaghe
18. Eubank
19. Hill
20. McCallum
21. Spinks
22. Wlad
23. Mosley
24. Froch
25. Naz


It's pretty hazy post Eubank, for me, Hill/Mcc/Spinks/Wlad could all change places as good Mosley and Froch.

Camacho and Naz could swap around too, with HC sneaking into the top 25.

The top is pretty much a lock for me, although I can see people having a different order but those are the names that define the last 30 years of boxing.

[SBleeder]

Hopkins, Pacman, Chavez need to be higher. No way in hell should SPinks be above Oscar or Tito.

Froch and Johnson above Calzaghe???

Lewis below Toney? Really? LOL

MAB and Morales below McCullum?

I know lists are often subjective and there is variation between people but this just looks horrible.

I'll give it a go so I'm not just talking out my arse and am actually making an effort:

1. Chavez Sr.
2. Hopkins
3. Pacquiao
4. Whitaker
5. Lewis
6. Holyfield
7. Oscar DLH
8. Mayweather
9. Barrera
10. Trinidad
11. Tyson
12. Jones Jr.
13. Morales
14. Toney
15. Leonard
16. Hagler
17. Calzaghe
18. Eubank
19. Hill
20. McCallum
21. Spinks
22. Wlad
23. Mosley
24. Froch
25. Naz


It's pretty hazy post Eubank, for me, Hill/Mcc/Spinks/Wlad could all change places as good Mosley and Froch.

Camacho and Naz could swap around too, with HC sneaking into the top 25.

The top is pretty much a lock for me, although I can see people having a different order but those are the names that define the last 30 years of boxing.

Should be a crime to rank Spinks that low.

[soul_survivor]

Should be a crime to rank Spinks that low.

why? you think he achieved more than the likes of mayweather, pac, chavez, lewis, holyfield ? and if so, how ?

[SBleeder]

Here's a top 25 since 1984, only taking into account accomplishments since 1984, which puts some guys lower than guys I would normally rank below them.

1. Pernell Whitaker
2. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.
3. Ricardo Lopez
4. Sugar Ray Leonard
5. Roy Jones Jr.
6. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
7. Marvin Hagler
8. Michael Spinks
9. Manny Pacquiao
10. Thomas Hearns
11. Bernard Hopkins
12. Azumah Nelson
13. Khaosai Galaxy
14. Felix Trinidad
15. Roberto Duran
16. Lennox Lewis
17. Oscar de la Hoya
18. Evander Holyfield
19. Juan Manuel Marquez
20. Mike McCallum
21. Erik Morales
22. Mike Tyson
23. Joe Calzaghe
24. Jung-Koo Chang
25. Marco Antonio Barrera

[SBleeder]

why? you think he achieved more than the likes of mayweather, pac, chavez, lewis, holyfield ? and if so, how ?

With those names specifically, not really a problem. However, you've got him below Trinidad, Tyson, Toney, Calzaghe, Eubank, Hill, McCallum... come on, man. Spinks is one of the five or six greatest light heavyweights of all time. Completely untouchable in his prime, and moved up to become heavyweight champ for nearly three years.

[soul_survivor]

With those names specifically, not really a problem. However, you've got him below Trinidad, Tyson, Toney, Calzaghe, Eubank, Hill, McCallum... come on, man. Spinks is one of the five or six greatest light heavyweights of all time. Completely untouchable in his prime, and moved up to become heavyweight champ for nearly three years.

i did say it was pretty hazy below eubank and i wouldnt be troubeld if you ranked him above mcc, hill etc. but his time at heavyweight is extremely hyped, he barely got past holmes (ill give him the second fight) and didnt fight anyone other than b names until tyson, who embarassed him.

ill give you his run at lhw but it wasn't anything more impressive than any of the guys in my top 15, especially tito, tyson, toney and calzaghe. possibly higher than eubank but its close.

[greeh]

Have the list been reduced to 25 spots or is it still a Top 50?

[greeh]

Should be a crime to rank Spinks that low.

Yup.

But it should also be a crime to rank Lopez and Khaosai that high.

Glad to see you have Chang in there though, albeit he is awfully too low in my opinion, and should never be ranked behind the two previously mentioned.