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  • I started out giving Ali the benefit of having a GOAT resume.

    I don't understand why on Earth anyone would use his PHYSIQUE of all things to explain why he was superior to modern HWs. He was famous for precisely the opposite: He didn't even lift weights and devoted very little attention to raw strength. He fought in the high 180s early career, put on 10 lbs of muscle mid career, pudge after that.

    Why do the same people who worship him seem to lack even a basic grasp of who he was?

    I know. Because they didn't even watch his fights before falling in line with the other ******s and saying he KOs everyone that ever lived, was monstrously buff, lightning fast, undefeated (I've actually seen that one), etc.

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    • Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
      Yeah, and guess what, Ali was just over 200 lbs in that fight. Steve Cunningham sized. Doesn't cut the mustard today at HW. Simple fact, live with it.
      He'd likely be a world class cruiserweight in our era, definitely not a world class heavyweight he'd be putting himself at a huge disadvantage.

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      • Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
        Yeah, and guess what, Ali was just over 200 lbs in that fight. Steve Cunningham sized. Doesn't cut the mustard today at HW. Simple fact, live with it.
        And that Ali would make every hw today look like they are moving through cement if he met them in the ring. Speed kills. Especially when its a man Ali's size possessing that kind of speed. You fools just don't understand, because you don't know boxing, all you know is Klitschko.

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        • Speed kills. Manny at HW = WOW!

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          • Originally posted by One more round View Post
            And that Ali would make every hw today look like they are moving through cement if he met them in the ring. Speed kills. Especially when its a man Ali's size possessing that kind of speed. You fools just don't understand, because you don't know boxing, all you know is Klitschko.
            Says the guy who thinks a guy can't maintain his physique and get himself back to full fitness after a couple of years of not training...

            Its one thing being ****** ... but then there is you!!

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            • Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
              Because you can't retrain and gain your conditioning back?

              You try so hard to sound smart but it fails every time, I feel bad for you.

              Lol, the body ages you imbecile. Speed dulls, reflexes dull, your legs begin to slow down. These are the effects of age. Not something you can reverse. But how could I expect you to understand that. I'm done here.

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              • Originally posted by Lebanon View Post
                Speed kills. Manny at HW = WOW!
                LMFAO!!!

                He is basically just copying everything Freddie Roach has said about Manny this is comical to say the least.

                Next he will be saying they have to take the test, Ali doesn't have to fight them because he is the champion they should fight him at a catchweight of 211lbs

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                • Originally posted by One more round View Post
                  Lol, the body ages you imbecile. Speed dulls, reflexes dull, your legs begin to slow down. These are the effects of age. Not something you can reverse. But how could I expect you to understand that. I'm done here.
                  THANK GOD!!

                  At least that way you'll stop embarrassing yourself.

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                  • Originally posted by One more round View Post
                    And that Ali would make every hw today look like they are moving through cement if he met them in the ring. Speed kills. Especially when its a man Ali's size possessing that kind of speed. You fools just don't understand, because you don't know boxing, all you know is Klitschko.
                    Not particularly a Wladimir fan. I approach him like I do Floyd.
                    Kinda dull? Yep.
                    Would humiliate 90% of their legendary predecessors? Yep.
                    Just deal with it.

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                    • Originally posted by One more round View Post
                      And that Ali would make every hw today look like they are moving through cement if he met them in the ring. Speed kills. Especially when its a man Ali's size possessing that kind of speed. You fools just don't understand, because you don't know boxing, all you know is Klitschko.
                      Haye was arguably as fast, if not faster than Ali, what happened? Not much.

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