So a big dude could just go and beat up most mayweather sized champion pro boxers?

[BennyST]

There's a big difference between sparring some random "prospects" and a world class fighter.

If you sparred Mayweather, Pacquiao, Garcia, Bradley, or anybody on that level, they would tear you apart if they wanted to. Your size wouldn't overcome their skills no matter how much you want to believe it.

Shaq and DLH was an exhibition for entertainment and nothing else. In a real boxing match, with rules, training camps, it would be no contest. I don't care how big Shaq is. He's not a professional boxer and that matters.

That big a difference, 100-150 pounds, can matter. Particularly if that guy is himself very strong, and an athlete. Size when it comes to that much can make a difference. A fully trained Oscar? I don't know. I still think it's just too much.

A random 200-220 pound guy off the street that thinks he can fight? That's a different story. Any world level boxer from 130/135 up would have little trouble.

[Mike Haynes]

There's a big difference between sparring some random "prospects" and a world class fighter.

If you sparred Mayweather, Pacquiao, Garcia, Bradley, or anybody on that level, they would tear you apart if they wanted to. Your size wouldn't overcome their skills no matter how much you want to believe it.

Shaq and DLH was an exhibition for entertainment and nothing else. In a real boxing match, with rules, training camps, it would be no contest. I don't care how big Shaq is. He's not a professional boxer and that matters.

True....Shaq would put ODLH in the hospital after a 3 punch combo.

But for real I think Shaq could have done pretty well in boxing if he started at like 18-19 years old.

[billeau2]

This issue comes up from time to time....I was a bouncer for many years and I would like to shed some light on this but first....green K to anyone who can answer the following: This situation proves a point so it is relevant to this conversation.

During an incident a little squirt...probably weighing about 130-50 pounds at most put two bouncers in the hospital...now weapons and the squirt had no training. Can anyone guess how it happened?

[Suckmedry]

Fully trained Oscar vs Shaq Oscar would win easily. You could see that thing was staged, they were fighting properly and everything but there were times oscar stopped moving and allowed shaq to bully him and make it entertaining.

Any competent boxer from any weightclass is going to give a random guy a beating, evena much larger one.

For example I was an amateur boxer from ages 13-16, and I weighed from like 100lbs-132lbs in the that time, and as i got experience i reguarly sparred beginners who outweighed me by literally whatever, obviously i never worked with any giants because it would be pointless, but i was always sparring guys that ranged from 150-220 or so while weighing much less than them. And let me tell you I would easily outclass them and land many clean punches with few if any in return and these guys would always try and take my head off.

So if I was giving away up to 80-90lbs and handling beginners easily, only having had like 20 fights, imagine how easily a world champ is gonna control a guy, even if hes 100+lbs heavier

[SBleeder]

I came back to this section with the hopes that it had improved. My hopes were dashed.

[Sugarj]

This issue comes up from time to time....I was a bouncer for many years and I would like to shed some light on this but first....green K to anyone who can answer the following: This situation proves a point so it is relevant to this conversation.

During an incident a little squirt...probably weighing about 130-50 pounds at most put two bouncers in the hospital...now weapons and the squirt had no training. Can anyone guess how it happened?

He either managed to give both bouncers the nastiest poke in their eyes or he resorted to biting?

[billeau2]

He either managed to give both bouncers the nastiest poke in their eyes or he resorted to biting?

Heres the event...I was bouncing next door and watched the whole thing go down. The kid was being obnoxious and taunting the two muscle heads, so they decide to go after him...First guy corners him against a parked car starts throwing punches, kid gets scared and ducks....the bouncer trips over him hits the sidewalk with his fist...."thudddd" broken arm. Second bouncer runs up, tries to grab kid while punching at the kid, trips over the first bouncer as he launches the punch...kid is now terrified and turns his head as the second boucer proceeds to punch the parking meter, and go out cold after tripping over the first bouncer getting up. Bouncer #1 has broken arm, bouncer #2 has concussion and broken hand.

heres another example: We had a free for all out back, my friend has a broken hand...broken while punching a guy in the chest who happened to have a gun in his chest pocket.

Now heres the point people always get wrong in these things. Throwing a punch with gloves on is to protect the hands of the fighter more than anything else... a Boxer trains to punch with gloves on. It has been determined that when people train for violence they are trained to act context specific. In other words, prison guards train to deal with unruly prisoners....people trained to fight in a ring do that very well. The notion that a boxer will be able to fight in another situation while possible is exxagerated.

My observations and data gathered by people in the field of psychology and in intense fields involving violence, collecting data, bare this out.

[Weltschmerz]

No, but Wladimir would beat Floyd.

[SBleeder]

No, but Wladimir would beat Floyd.

But Floyd KO1 Vitali.

[New England]

it depends on the context.

what would oscar do if shaq were allowed to clinch / wrestle him to the ground, and they fought in an elevator?
oscar would lose the fight.


there's a reason boxers use big guys in their security, and not small guys who know how to fight. size can be an insurmountable advantage, especially in close quarters.