So a big dude could just go and beat up most mayweather sized champion pro boxers?

[AlexKid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=BG4jg14nUK8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=dZHa9VffmO8


Now thats a fight for the history books!


I was surprised Oscars punches didnt do more damage!?

[bklynboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=BG4jg14nUK8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=dZHa9VffmO8


Now thats a fight for the history books!


I was surprised Oscars punches didnt do more damage!?

look up pros v joes with gatti taking on some heavyweights to see what happens when a professional boxer (a lightweight) takes on some bigger guys.

Now Shaq is not just some big guy. He was an elite athlete. I'm not saying that being a pro-football or basketball player is the same as being a pro-boxer, but I am saying that it's not the same thing as being just another "big dude."

http://www.****e.com/video-clips/3np...s-joe-knockout

http://www.****e.com/episodes/91iycx...eason-3-ep-302 (go to minute 18 or so - the third section. You may have to wait through a bunch of ads)

[Suckmedry]

Shaq is fking 7 foot and 300 something lbs lmao

[TBear]

The reality of reality tv. I believe they did pull some punches.

[Japanese Boxing]

Regardless of what a lot of people want to say, size does matter. If Shaq clinched with DLH and put his weight on him it would wear DLH down so fast. I was boxing with some Mexican propsects 4 years ago and the first time we sparred we went 5 rounds. The guy was walking at 147 and I told to take it easy and I was walking 182. I'm 6'1 and he was probably 5'7. When he got in on me I took a lot of shots because I had more ground to cover, but I did my best and held him at my distance for the majority of the rounds. He still outworked me in volume, and at times I looked befuddled. Obviously this was sparring, there were no winners or losers. I felt I did significantly more damage though on size alone. The next time i sparred the same guy we went 6 rounds, and I clinched him and moved him for the first two. I depleted a lot of what he had in his legs and basically had my way for the last 4 rounds. Size does matter, and eventually can overcome better skills if applied correctly.

[joseph5620]

Regardless of what a lot of people want to say, size does matter. If Shaq clinched with DLH and put his weight on him it would wear DLH down so fast. I was boxing with some Mexican propsects 4 years ago and the first time we sparred we went 5 rounds. The guy was walking at 147 and I told to take it easy and I was walking 182. I'm 6'1 and he was probably 5'7. When he got in on me I took a lot of shots because I had more ground to cover, but I did my best and held him at my distance for the majority of the rounds. He still outworked me in volume, and at times I looked befuddled. Obviously this was sparring, there were no winners or losers. I felt I did significantly more damage though on size alone. The next time i sparred the same guy we went 6 rounds, and I clinched him and moved him for the first two. I depleted a lot of what he had in his legs and basically had my way for the last 4 rounds. Size does matter, and eventually can overcome better skills if applied correctly.

There's a big difference between sparring some random "prospects" and a world class fighter.

If you sparred Mayweather, Pacquiao, Garcia, Bradley, or anybody on that level, they would tear you apart if they wanted to. Your size wouldn't overcome their skills no matter how much you want to believe it.

Shaq and DLH was an exhibition for entertainment and nothing else. In a real boxing match, with rules, training camps, it would be no contest. I don't care how big Shaq is. He's not a professional boxer and that matters.

[Japanese Boxing]

There's a big difference between sparring some random "prospects" and a world class fighter.

If you sparred Mayweather, Pacquiao, Garcia, Bradley, or anybody on that level, they would tear you apart if they wanted to. Your size wouldn't overcome their skills no matter how much you want to believe it.

Shaq and DLH was an exhibition for entertainment and nothing else. In a real boxing match, with rules, training camps, it would be no contest. I don't care how big Shaq is. He's not a professional boxer and that matters.

My point is that Shaq is 300+ lbs. If a small weight difference made that big of a difference, imagine what a huge weight difference would be like. I'm sure DLH pulled some punches, but we're talking boxing and size. It matters. Otherwise why do we have weight classes? Dedication to your craft makes you a better fighter, any random guy off the street can become at least something IMO.

Even in wrestling and Judo size means a ****load. There are very few guys who are smaller and do absolute division grappling and find success, and with Jiu Jitsu it's supposed to be working with the smaller guy, but anyone who's been in a boxing ring, or a wrestling mat can tell you bigger guys are harder to control, move, and beat. Again, I'm assuming training camps, time spent training etc. With the OP's thread title, I assume everything is sanctioned etc.

[joseph5620]

My point is that Shaq is 300+ lbs. If a small weight difference made that big of a difference, imagine what a huge weight difference would be like. I'm sure DLH pulled some punches, but we're talking boxing and size. It matters. Otherwise why do we have weight classes? Dedication to your craft makes you a better fighter, any random guy off the street can become at least something IMO.

Even in wrestling and Judo size means a ****load. There are very few guys who are smaller and do absolute division grappling and find success, and with Jiu Jitsu it's supposed to be working with the smaller guy, but anyone who's been in a boxing ring, or a wrestling mat can tell you bigger guys are harder to control, move, and beat. Again, I'm assuming training camps, time spent training etc. With the OP's thread title, I assume everything is sanctioned etc.

Weight classes for professional fighters. Not weight classes for random "big dudes off the street." The light heavyweight champion being too big for the welterweight champion doesn't translate to the average non professional 175 pound plus guy on the street being too big for a professional boxer to handle in a sparring session or boxing match.


There's also a big difference between Judo, wrestling, and professional boxing. Were talking about punching, avoiding punches and all that applies in a boxing match. Not throwing people or grappling. Not even close to the same thing.

[Japanese Boxing]

Weight classes for professional fighters. Not weight classes for random "big dudes off the street." The light heavyweight champion being too big for the welterweight champion doesn't translate to the average non professional 175 pound plus guy on the street being too big for a professional boxer to handle in a sparring session or boxing match.


There's also a big difference between Judo, wrestling, and professional boxing. Were talking about punching, avoiding punches and all that applies in a boxing match. Not throwing people or grappling. Not even close to the same thing.

Fair enough.

[BennyST]

So Shaq is just some big random dude off the street, rather than a 7 foot, 250+ pound elite athlete. That's literally about 100 pounds more than Oscar. Nearly doubling his weight.

For the real answer, go watch the Gatti one. He fought a much bigger guy, who would have weighed in as a heavyweight I'm guessing by his size, and the guy couldn't do anything.