who did liston beat to be so highly regarded as good??

[Kid Achilles]

Ali pretty much had the leftovers from when Liston was done with them. The guys who Liston knocked out in their primes, Ali fought when they were over the hill. Ali did beat some good fighters in the sixties but most of his biggest wins against prime opponents came when he was passed his own prime (ironically enough), in the 1970's. Liston was more impressive in the 60's than Ali IMO in terms of who he beat and how good they were when he beat them.

[butterfly1964]

Ali pretty much had the leftovers from when Liston was done with them. The guys who Liston knocked out in their primes, Ali fought when they were over the hill. Ali did beat some good fighters in the sixties but most of his biggest wins against prime opponents came when he was passed his own prime (ironically enough), in the 1970's. Liston was more impressive in the 60's than Ali IMO in terms of who he beat and how good they were when he beat them.

that's why liston's so underrated, cause ali beat him. if they didn't fight, sonny would hve been champ for at least 7 years!

[RockyMarcianofan00]

well alot of fighters are like that

look at Rex Layne had he not fought Rocky he'd probably eventually have had a title shot and may have won but after he fought Rocky he basically like disappeared

so alot of fighters are like that

-he was favorite to win that fight
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[butterfly1964]

well alot of fighters are like that

look at Rex Layne had he not fought Rocky he'd probably eventually have had a title shot and may have won but after he fought Rocky he basically like disappeared

so alot of fighters are like that

-he was favorite to win that fight

layne wouldn't have beaten liston.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

i didn't say that i said alot fighters were good but weren't recognized for what they did they were just recognized for who they got beat by
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[butterfly1964]

i didn't say that i said alot fighters were good but weren't recognized for what they did they were just recognized for who they got beat by

oh,... ok.

[Yogi]

well, they should be HOF'ers.

Only in your "Ali is the center of the boxing universe" mindset that you have displayed time after time, after time, after time...In the real world, if Machen, Williams and Folley are all HOF worthy then the HOF would be wide open to a whole ****load of very good contenders that have frequented the boxing scene from all eras & divisions. They'd have to at least triple the total number of inductees into the HOF if fighters like that are worthy, which would then only make it a MUCH bigger laughing stock that it has been as of late (due to what are precived as unworthy inductees as of late).

[RAESAAD]

Liston broke Knees for the Mafia,

[butterfly1964]

Only in your "Ali is the center of the boxing universe" mindset that you have displayed time after time, after time, after time...In the real world, if Machen, Williams and Folley are all HOF worthy then the HOF would be wide open to a whole ****load of very good contenders that have frequented the boxing scene from all eras & divisions. They'd have to at least triple the total number of inductees into the HOF if fighters like that are worthy, which would then only make it a MUCH bigger laughing stock that it has been as of late (due to what are precived as unworthy inductees as of late).

but at least folley should, cause he was a top ranking contender for years.

[Verstyle]

but at least folley should, cause he was a top ranking contender for years.

ive seen folley fight he's not all that bad