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  • #21
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    No, I don't. I have him at #7 WW.

    Boxrec's rankings are not legitimate at all.
    I'm assuming you have Ross in your top 5, then. Maybe even top 3?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Pacquiaoifyable View Post
      Where do you live, mate? I'm assuming it's somewhere in Canada? I live about 30 minutes from his birthplace and have always wondered if there was some sort of memorial or statue to mark his life, but I've yet to come across anything. I dare say his services to the sport have been overlooked, and then some.

      As IronDan said, he defeated 12 Hall of Fame fighters in his career, spanning from Flyweight to Welterweight. I think I'm right in saying that he holds the second most HoF names on a resume behind only Harry Greb, who has 13. People talk about Manny Pacquiao being one of the top 50 in the history of the sport, well McLarnin done what Pacquiao did, only Jimmy beat Hall of Famers throughout his rise in weight. An incredible fighter.
      This is spot on.. McLarnin not just an atg, but a very prominent one imo..

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      • #23
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        Hearns is a great WW and H2H wise I see your argument but I don't think he has the depth there.

        He has some impressive wins there most notably the destruction of Cuevas but his resume isn't too strong. Him being #10 even for me is based quite a lot on H2H abilities.
        Yes hearns' welter resume is a little shallow, really only had 2 years at the top before going up in weight

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Pacquiaoifyable View Post
          I'm assuming you have Ross in your top 5, then. Maybe even top 3?
          I was never that high on Ross.. Nothing against him, I just don't like that era and feel a lot of those guys from that era like mcclarin canon air, ambers, etc would not beat guys like Duran Chavez Floyd Pernall srl hearns manny.. Not trying to discredit them, i just think era was closed off by the mob, and not a lot of top level talent, but those guys put on great action fights so they get a lot of praise, but ward-gatti was a great fight and I think that era was filled with those type fights but that doesn't automatically mean those fighters are the greatest..

          Barney Ross would not be that great if he came up in the late 70s or 80s.. Guys like Duran, arguello, srl, Pryor, hearns, Benitez, would have made it impossible for Ross to achieve the same accolades he did in his era

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          • #25
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            I think he defeated about 15 HOF'ers. I cant remember if that's the record, but its close.
            True but I think he was close..

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Pacquiaoifyable View Post
              I'm assuming you have Ross in your top 5, then. Maybe even top 3?
              Think I had him #6 I'm not entirely sure.

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              • #27
                Yeah something like that...

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  It's actually 12. (13 if you include his win over HOF Ref Ruby Goldestein) Also one of them was a DQ win over Bud Taylor.

                  Still, it's extremely impressive.

                  Barney Ross
                  Tony Canzoneri
                  Billy Petrolle
                  Lou Ambers
                  Pancho Villa
                  Fidel Labarba
                  Kid Kaplan
                  Jackie Fields
                  Sammy Mandell
                  Young Corbett 3
                  Benny Leonard
                  Bud Taylor

                  They're the HOF'ers that he beat.

                  Not all of those are good wins but many of them are.

                  Benny Leonard is pretty much worthless, nothing more than a name.

                  Labarba very green, as was Jackie Fields.

                  A few passed their primes but still very capable and top level fighters such as Villa, Mandell and a few others.

                  Then there's Barney Ross, Tony Canzoneri and Lou Ambers that are absolutely outstanding wins. Ross and Canzoneri especially, just ATG calibur stuff.

                  McLarnin has one of the best resumes of all time. He often makes it into my Top 10 ATG list. Top 15 minimum, IMO.

                  His resume for example is much better than Willie Pep's IMO yet Pep is always ranked ahead of him.
                  I own't argue with you on that but everyone from that era seems to be in the HOF.

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                  • #29
                    Here is a rare Jimmy McLarnin interview which was done probably in 1978. To me it felt like going back in time when watching what this legend says about his career. In the first few minutes are 1 or 2 short moments without video/audio, but all the rest is fine. It is uploaded as an unlisted video.
                    Please do not share anywhere else, thank you:

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                      I own't argue with you on that but everyone from that era seems to be in the HOF.
                      very true, it seems everyone was a HOFer in that era,, Kinda like in today's age everyone is a "champion"

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