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  • Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
    Herbie Hide (WBO champ)
    Timo Hoffmann (European champ)
    Ross Purrity
    Corrie Sanders (WBC champ)
    Danny Williams
    Samuel Peter (WBC champ)
    Juan Carlos Gomez
    Chris Arreola
    Kevin Johnson
    Shannon Briggs
    Odlanier Solis
    Tomasz Adamek
    Dereck Chisora
    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
    I think I can help him...It turns out Vitali fought a lot of owl men. I think you will see what I mean as I present this best list of all time....

    1, Manuel who?

    2, Albert Who?

    3.Juan Carlos....Who!??

    4. Kirk who!????

    5. Timo.......Timo....Who!!!??

    6. Ed Who?

    And many more owl men as well. Woo woo hooo

    To be fair, vitali's best/solid wins are
    Herbie
    Sanders
    Peter
    Aerreola
    Adamek
    Chisora


    None are really spectacular in historical terms but at the time they were solid dominant wins over highly ranked guys,, all were top 10 and some top 5.. All it shows is that vitali was a solid champ but nothing else.. Comparable in terms of championship reigns he is in the same league as an genaro hernadez, ike quartey kosta tszyu- good champs but short on big career wins to truly have an atg resume

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    • Sanders is his best win.

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      • Originally posted by BKM-2010 View Post
        Sanders is his best win.
        All of his wins were good. The Sanders win was good, of course. I actually like some of his late performances in particular. Adamek, Chisora, Arreola.

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        • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          To be fair, vitali's best/solid wins are
          Herbie
          Sanders
          Peter
          Aerreola
          Adamek
          Chisora


          None are really spectacular in historical terms but at the time they were solid dominant wins over highly ranked guys,, all were top 10 and some top 5.. All it shows is that vitali was a solid champ but nothing else.. Comparable in terms of championship reigns he is in the same league as an genaro hernadez, ike quartey kosta tszyu- good champs but short on big career wins to truly have an atg resume
          Neither Hide mor Chisora were top 10.

          For all his knockouts and wins, Vitali has generally fought the second tier of the heavyweight division. Johnson, Charr, Chisora, Sosnowski, Briggs etc. it sure doesn't make for nice reading.

          He has 6 top 10 wins in his career. That's unfortunately not all time greatness.

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          • His best win was Sam Peter. In my opinion a better win than Sanders.

            That says a lot.

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            • Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
              Neither Hide mor Chisora were top 10.

              For all his knockouts and wins, Vitali has generally fought the second tier of the heavyweight division. Johnson, Charr, Chisora, Sosnowski, Briggs etc. it sure doesn't make for nice reading.

              He has 6 top 10 wins in his career. That's unfortunately not all time greatness.
              How did you get this number?

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              • Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
                Herbie Hide (WBO champ)
                Timo Hoffmann (European champ)
                Ross Purrity
                Corrie Sanders (WBC champ)
                Danny Williams
                Samuel Peter (WBC champ)
                Juan Carlos Gomez
                Chris Arreola
                Kevin Johnson
                Shannon Briggs
                Odlanier Solis
                Tomasz Adamek
                Dereck Chisora
                A lot of those weren't the top contenders and even if they were that's a very poor resume there.

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                • Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
                  Herbie Hide (WBO champ)
                  Timo Hoffmann (European champ)
                  Ross Purrity
                  Corrie Sanders (WBC champ)
                  Danny Williams
                  Samuel Peter (WBC champ)
                  Juan Carlos Gomez
                  Chris Arreola
                  Kevin Johnson
                  Shannon Briggs
                  Odlanier Solis
                  Tomasz Adamek
                  Dereck Chisora


                  ATG resume right there.

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                  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    A lot of those weren't the top contenders and even if they were that's a very poor resume there.
                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    ATG resume right there.
                    As I've explained previously, I don't just rank greatness on resume. A poster asked me to give some names he beat, which I did.

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                    • Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
                      As I've explained previously, I don't just rank greatness on resume. A poster asked me to give some names he beat, which I did.


                      klitschko fans [mostly vitali,] are known for designing their own criteria for determining greatness. hell, they even do it for wins / losses


                      saying that "vitali is an ATG" makes you feel good. when it's established that he doesn't fit the criteria of an ATG, you use your own. when he loses a fight via stoppage (byrd, lewis,) you make up your own rules.


                      bro, i get it. believe me. do your thing.

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