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  • Yeah I'm so sure everyone in the 70's had better chins than the heavyweights in every other era. You're so full of **** it's sickening. Foreman was perhaps the hardest puncher of all time, or one of the hardest, but that does not translate to him being the GREATEST knockout puncher of all time. That title goes to Joe Louis. In fact even Tyson was a greater KO puncher than Foreman, despite having less power. KO's are not all about power, they are a product of timing, force, quickness, positioning, and accuracy.

    If you were to measure Joe Louis's punches on a power meter and then Foreman's, I agree that Foreman would score higher. BUT Louis was a far more efficient one-punch knockout fighter because of his overall skill in setting up and delivering a sudden, precise, knockout punch.

    So if you want to go ahead and claim Foreman the hardest puncher of all time go on ahead, but drop this **** about him being the greatest one-punch knockout puncher which is BS. Name one instance where Foreman KO'ed a guy with a single punch, just one. Oh, I guess they were all wearing their cast iron chins the day Foreman was fighting them.

    Everything you say on this forum is done with an agenda of building up Ali and his opponents. It's plain and obvious and nearly everyone is on to it so why not give it a rest. People are starting to get sick of it.

    You seem like an okay guy for the most part but the cheerleading is nauseating. Please stop. Thanks.
    Last edited by Kid Achilles; 02-06-2006, 02:51 PM.

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      • I am sick of hearing this crap about tyson having overrated power . Tyson was the heaviest hitter in the heavyweight division ever. His punches made more noise on impact than shavers and foreman therefore he punched harder .

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        • Originally posted by Kid Achilles
          Yeah I'm so sure everyone in the 70's had better chins than the heavyweights in every other era. You're so full of **** it's sickening. Foreman was perhaps the hardest puncher of all time, or one of the hardest, but that does not translate to him being the GREATEST knockout puncher of all time. That title goes to Joe Louis. In fact even Tyson was a greater KO puncher than Foreman, despite having less power. KO's are not all about power, they are a product of timing, force, quickness, positioning, and accuracy.

          If you were to measure Joe Louis's punches on a power meter and then Foreman's, I agree that Foreman would score higher. BUT Louis was a far more efficient one-punch knockout fighter because of his overall skill in setting up and delivering a sudden, precise, knockout punch.

          So if you want to go ahead and claim Foreman the hardest puncher of all time go on ahead, but drop this **** about him being the greatest one-punch knockout puncher which is BS. Name one instance where Foreman KO'ed a guy with a single punch, just one. Oh, I guess they were all wearing their cast iron chins the day Foreman was fighting them.

          Everything you say on this forum is done with an agenda of building up Ali and his opponents. It's plain and obvious and nearly everyone is on to it so why not give it a rest. People are starting to get sick of it.

          You seem like an okay guy for the most part but the cheerleading is nauseating. Please stop. Thanks.
          alright, but if foreman was taught the proper technique then he would be the best ko puncher ever by far.

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          • I am sick of hearing this crap about tyson having overrated power . Tyson was the heaviest hitter in the heavyweight division ever. His punches made more noise on impact than shavers and foreman therefore he punched harder .
            It's widely regarded Foreman and shavers + many others hit harder than Tyson. Your basing your argument on the fact that Tysons punches made more noise?!?! Just means the camera had a more isolated audio whilst filming!

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            • Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
              It's widely regarded Foreman and shavers + many others hit harder than Tyson. Your basing your argument on the fact that Tysons punches made more noise?!?! Just means the camera had a more isolated audio whilst filming!
              yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me either.

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              • Originally posted by butterfly1964
                haha, marciano? this guy has one of the most overrated chins in history. he got dropped by guys with overrated punching power like moore and watcott with one punch. do you think these guys have a chance of dropping frazier? and ali got dropped by cooper and banks so enough said on that.
                **** the things you come out with can be plain ******. Marciano got dropped by good punches at got straight up. Ali was dropped by cooper and banks BEFORE his physical peak. You nuthug Ali on things you shouldn't, then discredit him on his best qualities. If ANYTHING you should be giving him credit for having the best Jaw in Heavyweight history on par with Larry Holmes, and you will have a hard time finding a sportswriter, or boxing historian... even those who hate Ali... that would say he has a **** Jaw.

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                • Originally posted by supaduck
                  http://media.putfile.com/julian_jack...s_herol_graham

                  Watch this, then try and tell me there's a harder puncher than Julian Jackson. That punch would knock anybody out.
                  not bad but i think Old Foreman KOing Moorer was much worse, And young foreman was the best

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                  • Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                    Everything you say on this forum is done with an agenda of building up Ali and his opponents. It's plain and obvious and nearly everyone is on to it so why not give it a rest. People are starting to get sick of it.
                    it's funny how everytime i post, you mention me trying to make ali look good, even though i seldom mention ali in most of my posts. i say what i have to say cause i think it's true, not to build another fighter up i haven't even mentioned. stop being so judgemental.

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                    • Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                      Yeah I'm so sure everyone in the 70's had better chins than the heavyweights in every other era. You're so full of **** it's sickening. Foreman was perhaps the hardest puncher of all time, or one of the hardest, but that does not translate to him being the GREATEST knockout puncher of all time. That title goes to Joe Louis. In fact even Tyson was a greater KO puncher than Foreman, despite having less power. KO's are not all about power, they are a product of timing, force, quickness, positioning, and accuracy.

                      If you were to measure Joe Louis's punches on a power meter and then Foreman's, I agree that Foreman would score higher. BUT Louis was a far more efficient one-punch knockout fighter because of his overall skill in setting up and delivering a sudden, precise, knockout punch.

                      So if you want to go ahead and claim Foreman the hardest puncher of all time go on ahead, but drop this **** about him being the greatest one-punch knockout puncher which is BS. Name one instance where Foreman KO'ed a guy with a single punch, just one. Oh, I guess they were all wearing their cast iron chins the day Foreman was fighting them.

                      Everything you say on this forum is done with an agenda of building up Ali and his opponents. It's plain and obvious and nearly everyone is on to it so why not give it a rest. People are starting to get sick of it.

                      You seem like an okay guy for the most part but the cheerleading is nauseating. Please stop. Thanks.

                      Agreed. Butterfly you seem alright, im an Ali fan myself... but he was no GOD, and frankly... sometimes you just have to shuthe****up. Especially with the Joe Louis bashing. Joe Louis was more accurate, more explosive and hit with superb technique... KO artist.. id say the brown bomber also.

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