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Originally posted by Scott9945 View PostThe weight limit for Leonard-Lalonde was actually 167, which makes it an even bigger joke as an alleged lightheavyweight title fight.
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Originally posted by mickey malone View PostYes, Leonard had everyone dancing to his tune.. 167!.. What was that all about.. My only guess - to make sure Lalonde came in as weak as possible
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Dokes was beating Weaver, but that was a quick stoppage. Weaver was blocking a lot of shots.
Joey Curtis was the referee, and for many subsequent fights, fans booed him loudly.
Another ref with a bad reputation for showy quick stoppages was Richard Steele (Chavez-Taylor among others).
Harris-Matthysse was another quickie, with Gelasio Huerta the referee.
You want a ref who starts by saying, "They came here to watch you fight, not me referee."
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Originally posted by smeck View PostDokes was beating Weaver, but that was a quick stoppage. Weaver was blocking a lot of shots.
Joey Curtis was the referee, and for many subsequent fights, fans booed him loudly.
Another ref with a bad reputation for showy quick stoppages was Richard Steele (Chavez-Taylor among others).
Harris-Matthysse was another quickie, with Gelasio Huerta the referee.
You want a ref who starts by saying, "They came here to watch you fight, not me referee."
While Steele was evaluating a done Taylor who looked like a truck ran over him, Duva was on the ring apron screaming as the arena was in full eruption mode.
Taylor unresponsive, so does Steele call a Ko or a DQ loss for Taylor because of dumb Duva?
A loss is a loss no matter the pick as well as dum fans always gonna moan over that which they know not.
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View PostA loss is a loss no matter the pick as well as dum fans always gonna moan over that which they know not.
Not sure if Curtis lived down the Weaver stoppage.
Fighters don't help matters when they suddenly get wide-eyed with the "why did you stop it, I'm fine" look.
We're talking about in the heat of the moment, and the ref IS up close, but I think there should be a little more warning. Within reason, the ref can do "walk to me" after a KO.
Dicier is when the fighter hasn't gone down, and is on the ropes, maybe covering up a little too long.
The standing 8 count doesn't seem to be used much anymore, but a standing 3 might be the answer; just enough time to let the fighter and the fans know that the TKO is coming.
If the fighter is dazed he won't know the difference and taking one more punch even on gloves in front of his face will be the end, but if he does have his senses he'll instantly prove he's still in the fight.
I know...as Steele said, and refs always do, it's better to stop early and have a re-match than stop late, but when IS late?
We see from the Adonis Stevenson fight or Zab Judah, a fighter can seem to have been saved, and even want to continue, only to collapse 30 seconds or a minute later.
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