I still think frazier circa 69-71 would beat liston on a decision IMO
anytime after that and liston would beat him
yea,,,I pretty much agree. that's a tough one to call. I think liston took a better punch but frazier had tons of heart. a young frazier may have taken liston's will by the later rounds with his tenacity and either stop him or make him quit but I could almost just as well see liston take frazier out by the mid rounds. would have been a nice clash in styles
Liston had a murderous jab. But, he wasn't the best at doubling or tripling it, which some vids confirm. So Smokin' Joe might have wore him down.
A photo, said to be from the days when Foreman acted as a sparring partner for Liston.
And a previous BoxingScene piece, when Foreman discusses Liston: http://www.boxingscene.com/george-fo...-liston--47293
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Liston had a murderous jab. But, he wasn't the best at doubling or tripling it, which some vids confirm. So Smokin' Joe might have wore him down.
A photo, said to be from the days when Foreman acted as a sparring partner for Liston.
And a previous BoxingScene piece, when Foreman discusses Liston: http://www.boxingscene.com/george-fo...-liston--47293
[IMG]http://i908.***********.com/albums/ac287/derekoliver1/COLOR%20SPLASH/CHAMPIONS%20ARTS%20GREATNESS/SonnyListonGeorgeForeman-Sparring.jpg[/IMG]
wow,,,liston looks every bit as imposing as George in that photo. I thought George would look much bigger in comparison
wow,,,liston looks every bit as imposing as George in that photo. I thought George would look much bigger in comparison
After seeing that photo I have to say that Liston probably beats Foreman. For sure he was a better boxer than George but if he was also as big and strong then all the advantages are in his favor.
After seeing that photo I have to say that Liston probably beats Foreman. For sure he was a better boxer than George but if he was also as big and strong then all the advantages are in his favor.
Heart?
Liston could be discourgaed by early set backs. Remarkably similar to Tyson in this way. Foreman was a lionhearted fighter. Hell, even in 1991 v Holyfield he never backed down.
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