Dark Destroyer vs the G man rematch

[TBear]

One factor not brought up with the fight was that the Kronk at the time really used the "previous day weigh in". Both Moorer at light heavyweight and Gerald McClellan middleweight severely dehydrated to make weight. McClellan was actually a light heavyweight for his middleweight bouts. Fighters would have an big size and strength advantage but there are risks involved. I am not saying it is the reason for the tragic events that occurred but the Kronk changed it's policy after the fight.

[Ham Porter]

Desperately disrespectful to Nigel Benn. His record and reigns at middleweight and super middleweight speak for themselves. Only ever beaten by world class boxers, non of which completely outclassed him.

Malinga certainly did, but then Benn was a shell of himself by then.


I think it's more a case of him overrating McClellan rather than him disrespecting Benn to be honest. There was nothing about McClellan that ever suggested he was on a completely different level to Benn.

[Humean]

My observation is that in the UK fights tend to get stopped quicker than usual. Of course my opinion is based on a relatively small sampling.

I'd also agree that this is probably true.

A great thread except for Shoulder Rolls silly comments.

One of the best fights I ever saw but with a tragic ending. However, as sad as McClellans state is now I have little sympathy in light of his torture of animals.

I know this may not sit well with everyone but animal cruelty is a very important issue with me.

I concur. It is hard for me to feel too much sympathy for him as a person also. Boxing did lose one hell of a fighter though.


McClellan likely had some problems going in as that is usually the case. You put a guy into the ring with pre-existing problems with a brutal puncher and warrior like Benn and have a war then it hardly surprising that the end results were so horrible. However if McClellan had a better corner then he could perhaps have been saved from the worst of it. The referee didn't help either. The referee and his corner should have seen the signs of McClellan having problems.

[ShoulderRoll]

A great thread except for Shoulder Rolls silly comments.

I stand by what I said, shady refereeing and inconsistency seem to happen more often than usual over there. Just recently Terry O'Connor was all but holding up Nathan Cleverly and helping him to his corner after Kovalev knocked him down. I have to call it as I see it.

mcclellan in shape and with a corner destros benn imo. i think their fight is a case of one man being overconfident, not training properly and underachieving on the night while the lesser fighter rose to the occasion and boxed out of his skin.

I'm curious as to the back story on that. Why do you say that Gerald wasn't in shape?

[Sugarj]

Malinga certainly did, but then Benn was a shell of himself by then.

I think it's more a case of him overrating McClellan rather than him disrespecting Benn to be honest. There was nothing about McClellan that ever suggested he was on a completely different level to Benn.

Benn had beaten Malinga before. However, the second fight which he lost from memory was a split decision loss......I've got a vague recollection that he might have had Malinga down at one point too?! But still a definite loss.

He was never quite the same after McClellan, but even when beaten twice by Steve Collins, he still landed decent blows and didn't look completely outclassed.

As for McClellan; the Jackson wins did elevate public perception of him. He had plenty of round one wins too. Plus his excellent amateur record and Kronk associations hinted towards his class. But Benn's record was good too, he was a solid world class professional with great power, conditioning and heart.

[Humean]

I stand by what I said, shady refereeing and inconsistency seem to happen more often than usual over there. Just recently Terry O'Connor was all but holding up Nathan Cleverly and helping him to his corner after Kovalev knocked him down. I have to call it as I see it.

You are talking nonsense. There are certainly many instances of bad refereeing performances in Britain but they are not out of the ordinary when you compare with other countries such as the US and Germany. The fact that you wanted to use the example of a French referee (probably assuming he was English/British but stuck with your flawed reasoning anyway after being informed that he was French) to criticize English referees only highlights a certain amount of prejudice you must have against English/British boxing refereeing. You call it like you see it, unfortunately your eyes are blinkered.

[mickey malone]

You are talking nonsense. There are certainly many instances of bad refereeing performances in Britain but they are not out of the ordinary when you compare with other countries such as the US and Germany. The fact that you wanted to use the example of a French referee (probably assuming he was English/British but stuck with your flawed reasoning anyway after being informed that he was French) to criticize English referees only highlights a certain amount of prejudice you must have against English/British boxing refereeing. You call it like you see it, unfortunately your eyes are blinkered.

Lol... Time someone told him

[Ham Porter]

Benn had beaten Malinga before. However, the second fight which he lost from memory was a split decision loss......I've got a vague recollection that he might have had Malinga down at one point too?! But still a definite loss.

He was never quite the same after McClellan, but even when beaten twice by Steve Collins, he still landed decent blows and didn't look completely outclassed.

As for McClellan; the Jackson wins did elevate public perception of him. He had plenty of round one wins too. Plus his excellent amateur record and Kronk associations hinted towards his class. But Benn's record was good too, he was a solid world class professional with great power, conditioning and heart.

It was a split decision loss but the knockdown was the only thing he did of note. He looked like a zombie in there with Malinga and sleep walked through the entire fight.


And for what it's worth, I thought Malinga edged Benn in their first fight too.

[Sugarj]

It was a split decision loss but the knockdown was the only thing he did of note. He looked like a zombie in there with Malinga and sleep walked through the entire fight.


And for what it's worth, I thought Malinga edged Benn in their first fight too.

The first fight was certainly close. Definitely post prime for the second, the McClellan fight did take it's toll.

[ShoulderRoll]

You are talking nonsense. There are certainly many instances of bad refereeing performances in Britain but they are not out of the ordinary when you compare with other countries such as the US and Germany.

I would say that they are out of the ordinary compared to the US. And I could give you several examples, either recent ones or going back further into the past. But that's something for another thread if you like.

The point is that it's ridiculous how Benn-McClellan was allowed to keep going after the first round whereas other fights over there have been stopped with a quickness for a lot less.