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  • Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson and Botha

    Funny but Rid**** Bowe was supposed to be the one included in a four-way rivalry but instead it was South African Francois Botha, who is the only boxer to have fought these three great heavyweights (Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis) of different era, and has also fought the current best, Wladimir Klitschko.

  • #2
    The real Four Kings.

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    • #3
      its like mayorga,,,

      He had showdowns with forrest, tito, oscar, vargas, shane, cotto,, not a bad set of guys

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
        its like mayorga,,,

        He had showdowns with forrest, tito, oscar, vargas, shane, cotto,, not a bad set of guys
        Mayorga won some of those though.

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        • #5
          Botha also fought Michael Moorer when he was relevant.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View Post
            Botha also fought Michael Moorer when he was relevant.
            and didnt he fight axel shultz after shultz's controversial fight with foreman,,

            His most exciting fight was him and etienne,, that was a doozy

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View Post
              Mayorga won some of those though.
              true,, mayorga was a goon,, no skills but the dude had huge heart, big power, great chin, and a huge will to win,, the dude would never really surrender even when tito was beating the hell out of him,,,
              he also fought his ass off vs cotto and shane,, and i swear he took 12th round dives vs both of them,,, mosely came out of nowhere and just dropped mayorga cold with like 1 second left, and cotto ending was bizarre with the hand injury,,, i was always su****ious of those endings,,, Seemed like mayorga got those fights if he agreed to go down in the 12th if it went the distance,, maybe its just my inner conspiracy theorist coming out in me..

              I loved it when he beat vargas,,,

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                true,, mayorga was a goon,, no skills but the dude had huge heart, big power, great chin, and a huge will to win,, the dude would never really surrender even when tito was beating the hell out of him,,,
                he also fought his ass off vs cotto and shane,, and i swear he took 12th round dives vs both of them,,, mosely came out of nowhere and just dropped mayorga cold with like 1 second left, and cotto ending was bizarre with the hand injury,,, i was always su****ious of those endings,,, Seemed like mayorga got those fights if he agreed to go down in the 12th if it went the distance,, maybe its just my inner conspiracy theorist coming out in me..

                I loved it when he beat vargas,,,
                I will probably lose the little credability that I have here when I say this....I really thought Mayorga was headed for greatness. I found his explosiveness outstanding. Still do. He is still one of my faves and he did indeed fight, but I was hoping for an ATG like situation

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                  I will probably lose the little credability that I have here when I say this...
                  Never mind. All the young talented fighters I watched during the years, absolutely certain they will one day dominate their division.
                  And **** - the balloon burst when they face their first, real quality test.

                  I believe it also comes as a surprise for the fighters themselves. I recall Tony Sibson, after losing his Hagler clash, saying something like 'I never realized it was such a gap between being a top ten fighter and being a top three fighter'.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                    I will probably lose the little credability that I have here when I say this....I really thought Mayorga was headed for greatness. I found his explosiveness outstanding. Still do. He is still one of my faves and he did indeed fight, but I was hoping for an ATG like situation
                    I never thought he would be ATG but i did think he was going to be around alot longer,,, He did manage to score many ppv showdowns, I just wish he had gotten past cory spinks because don king was setting up showdowns with mayorga and shane and zab, and in 04 those fights would have been hot,, also always wanted to see mayorga-margs, and mayorga-floyd

                    Originally posted by Ben Bolt View Post
                    Never mind. All the young talented fighters I watched during the years, absolutely certain they will one day dominate their division.
                    And **** - the balloon burst when they face their first, real quality test.

                    I believe it also comes as a surprise for the fighters themselves. I recall Tony Sibson, after losing his Hagler clash, saying something like 'I never realized it was such a gap between being a top ten fighter and being a top three fighter'.
                    I feel ya,,, That is why i dont even get hyped for young guys until they have 2 or 3 solid wins,,, like i didnt put faith in cotto till after he beat judah and shane,,,,,
                    Canelo, broner, gamboa,, all those guys have way long ways to go before i consider them legit elite fighters,,,,
                    Danny and mikey garcia are the only 2 that i think are legit now, even though i think mikey's chin will be his downfall just like brother robert, and danny is a good fighter, but i think he is alittle slow and limited and will get him in trouble vs elite guys like floyd or a manny...
                    I have seen too many guys not live up to the hype
                    vargas
                    peter
                    taylor
                    breland
                    dana rosenbloom or whatever his name was, he got ko'd by vinny paz
                    zab
                    robert garcia
                    tim littles
                    tyrone trice
                    ricardo williams

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