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mike mccallum vs bernard hopkins
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Hopkins has trouble with guys that are active and throw a lot of punches. Not just now that he is almost 50 but even back when he was closer to his physical prime.
He is just very stingy with his punches so he can be outworked.
I don't know enough about McCallum to say if he is the type who could win that way. Wasn't he more of a ****er who placed his shots well?
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostHopkins has trouble with guys that are active and throw a lot of punches. Not just now that he is almost 50 but even back when he was closer to his physical prime.
He is just very stingy with his punches so he can be outworked.
I don't know enough about McCallum to say if he is the type who could win that way. Wasn't he more of a ****er who placed his shots well?
Hopkins didnt just have trouble with high volume punchers, calzaghe was about the only guy that threw alot and outworked him with volume..
roy jones was very gunshy in their encounter but still outpointed hopkins,
robert allen in the first fight was having success vs hopkins by dictating the pace and wouldnt allow hopkins a comfort zone, hence why i always thought hopkins weaseled out of that fight and regrouped and changed the gameplan in the rematch
jermain taylor and chad dawson werent very active punchers, it was their jab that kept hopkins honest, and they wouldnt allow him to slow down the pace to a hopkins crawl and get picked apart. They both did a good job of using the jab to control hopkins and force him out of his comfort zone, and when hopkins is out of his comfort zone, his punch output plummets, he will still land an occassional hard clean shot, but he only throws like 25 punches a round in situations like this..
Taylor, jones, dawson didnt beat him with their own high volume, it was that hopkins wasnt comfortable, his output drops and they were all able to outpoint him..
I think mccallum would do the same thing, hopkins wouldnt be able to lure mccallum into his traps like he has done to tito, tarver, pavlik, pascal etc.. Mccallum would use his own jab to keep hopkins honest, hopkins would move alot but not land anything significant as a result. This would allow mccallum to outpoint him by the slimmest of margins..
this fight would pretty much always be a split decision or a draw,, everytime
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I've got to give it to The Body Snatcher. I think he is all around a better fighter than Hopkins in his prime. His jab is better and his inside game is several times more advanced. I'd say it would be a UD in Mccallum's favor or a TKO. I don't see BHOP getting a lot of leverage outside of doing so while moving backwards and he doesn't have enough power to get to Mccallum's chin. I do see Mike getting tagged quite a bit but just can't see him not coming out on top.
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostMccallum wasnt just a ****er,, he was a very good boxer-puncher with great body attack,, good chin, good stamina, nice jab. He really was an all around great fighter with no real weakness
Hopkins didnt just have trouble with high volume punchers, calzaghe was about the only guy that threw alot and outworked him with volume..
roy jones was very gunshy in their encounter but still outpointed hopkins,
robert allen in the first fight was having success vs hopkins by dictating the pace and wouldnt allow hopkins a comfort zone, hence why i always thought hopkins weaseled out of that fight and regrouped and changed the gameplan in the rematch
jermain taylor and chad dawson werent very active punchers, it was their jab that kept hopkins honest, and they wouldnt allow him to slow down the pace to a hopkins crawl and get picked apart. They both did a good job of using the jab to control hopkins and force him out of his comfort zone, and when hopkins is out of his comfort zone, his punch output plummets, he will still land an occassional hard clean shot, but he only throws like 25 punches a round in situations like this..
Taylor, jones, dawson didnt beat him with their own high volume, it was that hopkins wasnt comfortable, his output drops and they were all able to outpoint him..
I think mccallum would do the same thing, hopkins wouldnt be able to lure mccallum into his traps like he has done to tito, tarver, pavlik, pascal etc.. Mccallum would use his own jab to keep hopkins honest, hopkins would move alot but not land anything significant as a result. This would allow mccallum to outpoint him by the slimmest of margins..
this fight would pretty much always be a split decision or a draw,, everytime
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split decision either way but I'd tend to favor mccallum. I think mccallum is a very overlooked fighter. The guy in his prime was proper p4p material.
Hopkins on the other hand almost always came up short against the best of the best unless he was fighting smaller men like oscar and tito. Hopkins has always struck me as consistently very, very good but rarely absolutely amazing .. especially when the opponent can really box and isn't the smaller man.
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Originally posted by miamike View PostTaylor and Calzaghe fought Bhop after BHop had slowed down. A prime BHop would have stopped Taylor and outpointed Joe C..
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