Your thoughts on this inconsistent hw
Was mike weaver better than his record indicated?
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To me, Weaver was a late bloomer. Starting with the Holmes fight, Weaver became a top heavyweight. Not an all time great, but a dangerous top fighter during his era.
Holmes avoided a unification rematch with him too. I don't know if that was because of Don King or not.Comment
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Weaver was much better than his record indicated. Perhaps he was a late bloomer like Pendleton and Drayton. Learning as he went early in his career, losing some along the way. I even feel he was somewhat underrated.Comment
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Weaver trained out of the same Pomona gym that produced Albert Davila, Richie and Alberto Sandoval, and, a bit later, Shane Mosley. The gym was in a serious mexican gang neighborhood and they had, at one point ( while Weaver was a top contender) armed guards to escort him to his car.
After he retired, he worked out at the same gym (health club) as a friend of mine. A guy that worked there kept getting on him about how Larry Holmes kicked his ass. Mike Weaver is a gentleman and a Christian but he had enough and my friend saw him pin the guy to a locker and explain that getting your ass kicked by Larry Holmes doesn't mean that everybody can do it.
The last time I saw him, was 1997 or 98, at an amateur boxing show in Chino CA. At that point, Mike had put on some weight and was no longer "Hercules." So I sat next to him and talked about the action in the ring for 2 hours until they introduced him.Comment
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His record is very deceiving to the untrained eye. And it looks the way it does partly because he was forced to come up the hard way and develop as a boxer basically on the fly. He didn't have the benefit of padding his record with 45 or so tomato cans before he reached his 1st fringe world level contender like the fighters of today do. Most of his opponents in his 1st few fights were either prospects or fringe world level guys with a few journeymen sprinkled in between (which mostly he beat). Also important to note that he kinda stumbled over boxing by accident.
But from the Holmes fight on up during his prime (79-87), i wouldn't chalk up his losses to inconsistency, but the fact that he was really just a B-level boxer with a very limited skillset & a shaky beard... but had devestating A+++++ power.
I think he's generally rated correctly by those in the know that are familar with the era... an average boxer with a limited skillset, but had the power to turn out the lights of anyone in the division. Not with a TKO but with a brutal, clean KO of the cold variety.
Basically an 80's version of shavers.Comment
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The story I heard about Weaver was that while in the army out drinking he got into a rowe and knocked a guy out....He was told that "the guy" just happened to be the heavyweight champ in the Army! hence a legend was born.
yeah Weaver was put in the mix quick... Again call the guy good, very good, great, he fought the best and was always a danger with some exceptional wins.Comment
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Yeah, he was, he came up the rough way where he had to learn on the fly, as mentioned before, but, at his best, he was a level below guys like Witherspoon, Holmes, and Page.When he was champion, however, it was a situation, where, there were at least five or six contenders who could beat him, however, in the right scenario, he could beat them.Page should've beaten him for the title in 1982, however.Comment
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