Why didnt Tua-Tyson happen?

[Cardinal Buck]

It would've jeopardized huge paydays versus Lewis or Holyfield.

[Mike Tyson77]

When he returned in 1995 it was with the sole view to reclaiming the title as soon as possible.

He obviously won the WBC and WBA titles in quick time from Bruno and Seldon but was then beaten by Holyfield twice, the second loss giving him a years ban for biting.

He returned in 1999 and met a few fringe top ten contenders (Botha, Savarese and Gotota amongst others) enroute to his 2002 challenge to Lennox Lewis. This would have been the ideal time to meet Tua, but it was never on the cards and there wasn't much of a public demand for the fight.

There were many half decent guys who Tyson didn't meet in the late 90s (Morrison/Foreman/Moorer/Mercer/Bowe). So I wouldn't have said there was an issue with either party avoiding the other.

I'd probably favour the late 90s version of Tua over Tyson. Tyson's technique, speed and range of punches were still superior to that of Tua's, but the Tyson of this time didn't have 12 round stamina and workrate......Tua did!

Different story prime for prime though.

Of Course.

[Anthony342]

In this case that would mean King would be part of the promotion for (at least) several of Tua's future fights. So if Tua had future commitments to his promoter, he would be having another big cut of his pay taken, kinda like an ex-wife. For example, when Ruiz (a Don King fighter) defended his title against Valuev, he became Valuev's promoter for the rest of his career when he won.

How is that legal? If I were a fighter, I don't think I'd fight anyone with a promoter that had some kind of bull**** agreement like that.

[Bodyshot3]

The old Don King cunundrum methinks...

........'son you will get the big fight of your dreams with my guy and the biggest payday of your life, but if you win I get a big slice of you.'

......'or don't get the fight, keep on having to beat ranked fighters for smaller purses and let's see how far you get without having me on your team.'

It worked for Don when he had all the stars, the TV dates and the WBC rankings in his back-pocket. Fighters he fancied owning got lured in with massive purses and then he often eased out the original promoter as well.

Brutal and as clever as a Magpie.

Guess Tua was well-advised enough to see the dangers and lots of fighters began to realise it was better to be patient and independent rather than rich and owned by two masters.

[Anthony342]

So why isn't something done about corruption like that? Why isn't there some kind of rule against it? Isn't this why there are boxing commissions? Or are they in on this crap too? Why isn't there something in place that puts a stop to this and then prevents it from happening in the future? Other sports have players associations and unions, what about having one for fighters?

[billeau2]

So why isn't something done about corruption like that? Why isn't there some kind of rule against it? Isn't this why there are boxing commissions? Or are they in on this crap too? Why isn't there something in place that puts a stop to this and then prevents it from happening in the future? Other sports have players associations and unions, what about having one for fighters?

It never hurts to ask that question. When we accept something horrendous we become implicit. There are conspiracies in boxing....commissions that are bought, promoters who control and steal....But this is indeed an injustice

Regarding Tua and Tyson:

Tua was nowhere the fighter Tyson ever was. Tua had heavy hands but could not move well, I don't remember if he even had power in both hands (great hook).

Here is a great analogy: People said Golata and Tyson would be spectacular. Golata was a hard ass, could fight agressively and had good power. Well we all remember how that one turned out.

[Capaedia]

Tua could murk a dinosaur with his r


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[Anthony342]

It never hurts to ask that question. When we accept something horrendous we become implicit. There are conspiracies in boxing....commissions that are bought, promoters who control and steal....But this is indeed an injustice

Regarding Tua and Tyson:

Tua was nowhere the fighter Tyson ever was. Tua had heavy hands but could not move well, I don't remember if he even had power in both hands (great hook).

Here is a great analogy: People said Golata and Tyson would be spectacular. Golata was a hard ass, could fight agressively and had good power. Well we all remember how that one turned out.

Yes implicit. How does that old saying go? Evil exists when good men do nothing? This kind of stuff is what is killing boxing in the US. I'll always root for the fighters and their hard work though but promoters like King just make me sick.