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  • RiC-DiC
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    #11
    Hasim Rahman was pretty much a real life Stringer Bell (off The Wire), except he actually beat the **** out of debtors with his hands and got shot how many times lol

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    • SBleeder
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      #12
      I'd like to see a non-fictional version of Rubin Carter's life.

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      • Panamaniac
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        #13
        Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin
        I am not a major fan of most boxing films. Other than Raging Bull most seem to have the Hollywood production in fight scenes. Most would agree that there were many more compelling stories than Mickey Ward to feature in film. They are making a film on Duran which I think will be out next year? Perhaps this will be a good film. Deniro will play Ray Arcel and Gael Garcia Bernal as Duran. The film will be called Hands of Stone.
        Couple of things have struck me with regard to the production of "Hands of Stone." First, Al Pacino was initially announced to play Arcel, which, in my humble opinion, was better casting in terms of body type to Arcel. The most striking thing about the casting, however, is the selection of the actor who would play the main character. A physical look-alike has never been a requirement for me - although it would be a luxury - but Gael Garcia Bernal's facial features are way to soft to play a rugged beast like Duran. A fellow like John Leguizamo, for example, has that edgy Duran-like look. Who knows, maybe Gael Garcia Bernal can overcome his shortcomings with great acting and chracterization(s).

        I'd also like to see films on Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Robinson, Barney Ross, Muhammad Ali*, Sonny Liston and Joe Louis.



        *Yes I know films on Ali have been made before, but they're all weak. The definitive Ali film has yet to be made. BTW, Will Smith did the best he could with the material he was given.

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        • HaglerSteelChin
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          #14
          Originally posted by Panamaniac
          Couple of things have struck me with regard to the production of "Hands of Stone." First, Al Pacino was initially announced to play Arcel, which, in my humble opinion, was better casting in terms of body type to Arcel. The most striking thing about the casting, however, is the selection of the actor who would play the main character. A physical look-alike has never been a requirement for me - although it would be a luxury - but Gael Garcia Bernal's facial features are way to soft to play a rugged beast like Duran. A fellow like John Leguizamo, for example, has that edgy Duran-like look. Who knows, maybe Gael Garcia Bernal can overcome his shortcomings with great acting and chracterization(s).

          *Yes I know films on Ali have been made before, but they're all weak. The definitive Ali film has yet to be made. BTW, Will Smith did the best he could with the material he was given.
          I agree about Bernal. There were many more choices out there that i would prefer. However, we will see what type of make-up they use to make him appear like Duran. Perhaps he can surprise us. The actor playing Duran is Mexican. Although Duran's father was Mexican, i am sure many Panamanians would have preferred that a Panamanian actor would have received that opportunity.

          I also didn't like ALI much. Also thought it was an editing error to simply cut off the film after the Foreman fight. I would have like to have seen the film continue to the Leon Spinks fights.

          As a side note, i have tons of ALI material that i haven't gone through yet, i am sure there is plenty of info not included on this films.

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          • HaglerSteelChin
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            #15
            Originally posted by Scott9945
            I've always thought that Greb was Dutch rather than German.
            The funny thing about Greb was that his early promoters tried to say he had Irish blood, which was not true. The idea was that he would get the major irish fanbase of that era.

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            • Bolo Punch
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              #16
              1. Marcel Cerdan
              2. Carmen Basilio
              3. Alexis Arguello
              4. Carlos Monzon
              5. Salvador Sanchez

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              • Anthony342
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                #17
                Originally posted by SBleeder
                I'd like to see a non-fictional version of Rubin Carter's life.
                As long as it's a more honest portrayal than that bullcrap Denzel Washington version, then I'd like to see that too.

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                • Anthony342
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Panamaniac
                  Couple of things have struck me with regard to the production of "Hands of Stone." First, Al Pacino was initially announced to play Arcel, which, in my humble opinion, was better casting in terms of body type to Arcel. The most striking thing about the casting, however, is the selection of the actor who would play the main character. A physical look-alike has never been a requirement for me - although it would be a luxury - but Gael Garcia Bernal's facial features are way to soft to play a rugged beast like Duran. A fellow like John Leguizamo, for example, has that edgy Duran-like look. Who knows, maybe Gael Garcia Bernal can overcome his shortcomings with great acting and chracterization(s).

                  I'd also like to see films on Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Robinson, Barney Ross, Muhammad Ali*, Sonny Liston and Joe Louis.



                  *Yes I know films on Ali have been made before, but they're all weak. The definitive Ali film has yet to be made. BTW, Will Smith did the best he could with the material he was given.
                  I feel the same way about the Marciano movies I've seen, although I did like Tony Lo Bianco's acting in the ABC version.

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                  • Nagabilly
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Panamaniac
                    Couple of things have struck me with regard to the production of "Hands of Stone." First, Al Pacino was initially announced to play Arcel, which, in my humble opinion, was better casting in terms of body type to Arcel. The most striking thing about the casting, however, is the selection of the actor who would play the main character. A physical look-alike has never been a requirement for me - although it would be a luxury - but Gael Garcia Bernal's facial features are way to soft to play a rugged beast like Duran. A fellow like John Leguizamo, for example, has that edgy Duran-like look. Who knows, maybe Gael Garcia Bernal can overcome his shortcomings with great acting and chracterization(s).

                    I'd also like to see films on Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Robinson, Barney Ross, Muhammad Ali*, Sonny Liston and Joe Louis.



                    *Yes I know films on Ali have been made before, but they're all weak. The definitive Ali film has yet to be made. BTW, Will Smith did the best he could with the material he was given.
                    I was a little dissapointed that Pacino dropped out because he's my favorite actor, but of course De Niro can do no wrong. I also think Bernal is a little too "nice" for Duran although he does resemble a young Duran a bit. The one that bothers me the most is Usher... as Leonard???

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                    • CHEECH
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                      #20
                      imo the best ali film was the greatest featuring the man playin the man himself. imo nobody else can b ali but ali. any impersonation is highly annoying not the least of which will smith who is annoying from baseline

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