Marvin Hagler vs. Ray Leonard

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  • Hydro
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    #71
    Hagler went to make movies in Italy.

    Hagler deserved to lose to that Blinking, Boozing, ***** Beater just for doing that gay "I'm so cool" dance after the fight.

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    • Boxclever
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      #72
      i love this fight, it's a cracker.

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      • Damon
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        #73
        There was no way that Leonard deserved the decision, Hagler was the better and still is better than Leonard, don't get me wrond, Leonard was a brilliant fighter but he didn't desreve the decision, Hagler was winning the fight in nearly every round.

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        • Tiger Flowers
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          #74
          Leonard Hagler

          I have watched the fight many mnay times. The most recent being about 2 months ago. I would rather watch Hagler Hearns since it was much more exciting but I felt a sense of duty to view the fight again as sometimes time will remove and tendancy to be subjective when scoring. I am both a Leonard fna and Hagler fan but scored the fight for Leonard. The last time I watched it I gave the "close rounds" to Halger just for the hell of it and in my eyes he still only won 5 rounds.

          I think at the time, wrong or not, Hagler was expected to tear through Ray the way he did Tommy Hearns, Mustafa Hamsho, Wilfred Scypion, and just about evey other fighter he faced. When the judges and the fans saw an "old" Halger missing and often tenative it made Ray look that much better. I tell people that Ray didn't really win the fight as much as Hagler lost it. If that makes any sense.

          Oh well....it's an argument or debate that will continue for years. Hats off to Marvin for retiering and staying retired.

          Tiger Flowers

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          • antihero
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            #75
            I watched the fight again recently and still have it 115-113 for Leonard. Hagler got off to a slow start and for me Leonard was 4-1 up after 5 rounds. Leonard was just too quick, Hagler was just following, not doing enough and when he did throw, missed more often than not or was hitting gloves rounds 1-5. Ray was landing the cleaner scoring blows in the earlier stages. Hagler pulled it back over the middle rounds but never was ahead and Leonard edged some of the later rounds, so for me 115-113 Leonard was fair. Apart from the scoring, looking back at him there's no doubt Leonard was a lovely boxer to look at,bouncing around with clever footwork. Much better to watch than someone like Floyd Mayweather. To me, there's no comparison.

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            • sookyjumps
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              #76
              it depends how you look at it, alot of people who saw leonard won, think that simply because its sugar ray leonard.

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              • wmute
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                #77
                Originally posted by !! Sonny !!
                Leonard put on a boxing clinic that day.
                the best clinics leonard puts on are the ones in "use of contracting power in negotiation before fights". (see duran 2, hagler, lalonde): the guy should teach MBAs.

                The only clinic that was on that night was Hagler's "how to lose a fight": trying to outbox leonard in the first part of the fight, stalk him in the wrong stance instead of cutting him off from his usual southpaw...

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                • Styx Bootleg
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                  #78
                  Although more of a Marvelous man I thought Leonard probably edged it, largely due to ring wear on Hagler's part. Not a great fight.

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                  • lefthooklacy11
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by The_One77
                    i easily gave the 12th round to leonard, Marvin could barely hit him..
                    he was so elusive while Marvin just ate punches, especially the flurry against the ropes..what was it, 12 unanswered punches?
                    That was pretty cool, the guy had unreal hand speed. I thought SRL won the fight, but I too could have seen it go either way.

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                    • SnoopySmurf
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                      #80
                      While I thought it was a close fight, I thought most of the rounds was won by Hagler...but he would lose it badly in the final 30 seconds of each round to the judges.

                      Ali used this tactic as well.

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