Who Is The Greatest Boxer Of Alltime

[RockyMarcianofan00]

unfortunatley most good fighters don't know or don't want it to be over so there always hoping for that last fight to just prove they still go it and then....well they get hurt
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JuicyNicky

[Da Iceman]

butterfly who's the guy in the first pic?

[butterfly1964]

butterfly who's the guy in the first pic?

the first one is ali vs. holmes and the second is ali vs. berbick.

[KidBlackie]

[[[[actually, in an ali's autobiography, he mentions that both him and frazier agreed that jack johnson(and joe louis) were the greatest boxers of old. i have a documentary where ali makes a 3 or four minute statement about jack. i believe it's called legends of the ring(not sure though).]]]]]
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I don't recall Ali ever actually rating the heavies, but he also considered Rocky one of the greatest and Louis, Johnson, and Rocky's names were painted on 3 large boulders at his Deer Lake training camp.

I think it was his Nov 74 Playboy interview where he touches on great heavies. He didn't claim he could beat them all, but figures he's up there with them. Ali is like Foreman in that he's all over the map in what he says, a walking contradiction. His "The Greatest" bio was inaccurate in some details like his alleged medal throwing incident and a really goofy recollection of a rumble with bikers that is so far over the top it seems beyond even his imagination.

[butterfly1964]

[[[[actually, in an ali's autobiography, he mentions that both him and frazier agreed that jack johnson(and joe louis) were the greatest boxers of old. i have a documentary where ali makes a 3 or four minute statement about jack. i believe it's called legends of the ring(not sure though).]]]]]
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I don't recall Ali ever actually rating the heavies, but he also considered Rocky one of the greatest and Louis, Johnson, and Rocky's names were painted on 3 large boulders at his Deer Lake training camp.

I think it was his Nov 74 Playboy interview where he touches on great heavies. He didn't claim he could beat them all, but figures he's up there with them. Ali is like Foreman in that he's all over the map in what he says, a walking contradiction. His "The Greatest" bio was inaccurate in some details like his alleged medal throwing incident and a really goofy recollection of a rumble with bikers that is so far over the top it seems beyond even his imagination.

i read it in a biography of ali, that after winning the gold medal in '60, that in louiville he and his friend decided to go to a white-only restaurant, and that clay would wear his medal, and that the color barrier wouldn't matter if he had brought olympic gold to their home town. so when they went in, there was a black waitress at the counter that told them that she could not serve them, and she advised them to leave right away. cassius said, "but i'm the gold medal winner, look!", and he showed off his olympic medal. a big, white man came out of a separate room with a suit on and proclaimed himself to be the manager. he said that he wasn't going to serve him so he might as well leave. cassius again said, "but i'm the gold medal winner from the olympics," and again showed his medal. but the man said ,"i don't care who the hell you are, no *****s are getting served here!" and the man began to curse and swear and say all kind of racial slurs faster than clay threw punches in the ring. then clay and his friend looked over and saw a group of seemingly tough white motorcyclists. now if rumor was right, these were the same punks that for no reason beat up a black teenager a week before! the gang got up and started to walk toward the two negro youngsters. clay and his friend turned around and slowly walked out. but the gang followed them! so the two boys ran and jumped on their motorbikes and took off! the gang followed suit on their motorcycles. now i believed it was three or four men, so two went after one, while two went after the other. so what clay and his friend decided to do was to jump off their bikes suddenly and make the guy's behind them crash! so they did that and it worked for the most part but the leader of the gang, a guy nicknamed kentucky, ran after them with one of the other gang members. one of them grabbed clay and the other was going to beat him up, when clay got help from his friend! he managed to pull the other guy off of clay and then kentucky lunged after clay, and cassius knocked kentucky "all the way to kansas" lol! clay then saw the chain around kentucky neck and began to choke him with it. the man begged for mercy and clay let him go. both gang members ran away. then it hit clay. he realized that even though he made his country and his city proud by winning gold, he would still be considered a *****. he then knew that the gold medal around his neck did not mean a thing really. so there was a river nearby so he walked up to it, took the medal from around his neck, and threw it in the river!

at least that's how i know the story goes.

[Heckler]

Ali, Louis and marciano following this... Marciano although had good power, beat his opponents using determination and sheer heart... The extent of these qualities are matched by one man, Muhammad Ali. Whatever damage marciano could inflict would not be beyond frazier and foremans, Ali would move around the periphery with marciano failing to cut off the ring... With overwhelming handspeed Ali would win on cuts or UD.

[jabsRstiff]

its cruel cuz joe was over the hill and he took a beating. that pic should be banned!

That is an over-the-hill "Joe" in his avatar....but it isn't Louis.
It's Walcott.

[j]

actually, in "legends of the ring" ali says, quote, "the greatest of all time" referring to jack johnson. just watched it a few hours ago. that's not me talking, that's ali.


about the olympic gold medal, from a very recent book written by muhammad ali called "the soul of a butterfly" 2004, he writes:

"over the years i had told some people i lost it, but no one ever found it. that's because i've lost it on purpose. the world should know the truth - it's somewhere at the bottom of the ohio river."

it was an easy quote to find as i have the book. it's a very interesting read.

[butterfly1964]

the point is, ali is the greatest.

[big a]

I thinj Joe Frazier is the greatest of all time!