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  • #81
    Originally posted by butterfly1964
    ali is better than robinson.
    not on his best day butterfly. look at how much robinson fought and how well. ali imitated robinson and fell short because he doesnt have the body to fight as hard and as often as robinson. most boxing historians agree with my opinion and if you took the time to get off ali's nuts and watch the videos of sugar ray you would agree as well.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by blockhead
      sugar ray robinson, henry armstrong, joe louis , ali

      in that order. no way anyone was better than robinson.
      I'm not getting into the order but those were the best boxers maybe not the best heavyweights

      i don't know about henry armstrong at all but the others were good boxers not necessarily the best heavyweights
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      • #83
        Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
        I'm not getting into the order but those were the best boxers maybe not the best heavyweights

        i don't know about henry armstrong at all but the others were good boxers not necessarily the best heavyweights
        armstrong was an amazing but little known fighter. he is highly ranked on p4p lists. the video of him is a lot of fun to watch.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by blockhead
          not on his best day butterfly. look at how much robinson fought and how well. ali imitated robinson and fell short because he doesnt have the body to fight as hard and as often as robinson. most boxing historians agree with my opinion and if you took the time to get off ali's nuts and watch the videos of sugar ray you would agree as well.
          i think i said this in another post, but i'll say it again. if they fough as they are, meaning robinson as a middleweight, and ali as a heavyweight, robinson would get crushed in one round, 'cause the size difference is too overwhelming.

          however, p4p ali would still win. think about it, if sugar ray moved up to hw, then he would naturally become slower, so ali would be too fast for him. likewise, if ali moved down to middleweight, then ali would be faster and ali would still be too fast for him. so ali wins, whether it is p4p or not!

          pwned

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          • #85
            Originally posted by butterfly1964
            i think i said this in another post, but i'll say it again. if they fough as they are, meaning robinson as a middleweight, and ali as a heavyweight, robinson would get crushed in one round, 'cause the size difference is too overwhelming.

            however, p4p ali would still win. think about it, if sugar ray moved up to hw, then he would naturally become slower, so ali would be too fast for him. likewise, if ali moved down to middleweight, then ali would be faster and ali would still be too fast for him. so ali wins, whether it is p4p or not!

            pwned
            your argument makes absolutely no sense. you dont understand what the p4p rankings are based on, and i doubt you have ever seen ray robinson fight. he was far faster than ali. more accurate and more powerful for his size all of these attributes make ray robinson the best p4p fighter of all time and thus the best fighter of all time which is the title of this thread. try watching more people fight other than ali and get a chance at comparing skills to weight classes if you want to "pwn" someone. you say you have read multiple books about ali and thats great ali was great but you need to do more research so you can get a broader spectrum of the history of boxing.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by blockhead
              your argument makes absolutely no sense. you dont understand what the p4p rankings are based on, and i doubt you have ever seen ray robinson fight. he was far faster than ali. more accurate and more powerful for his size all of these attributes make ray robinson the best p4p fighter of all time and thus the best fighter of all time which is the title of this thread. try watching more people fight other than ali and get a chance at comparing skills to weight classes if you want to "pwn" someone. you say you have read multiple books about ali and thats great ali was great but you need to do more research so you can get a broader spectrum of the history of boxing.
              explain how my p4p analysis makes no sense. i hit the nail right on the nose.

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              • #87
                Ali is the greatest.

                Hell, he didn't even have a prime. Those years were spent in jail. He could have been absolutely incredible during those years.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by butterfly1964
                  explain how my p4p analysis makes no sense. i hit the nail right on the nose.
                  The biggest problem is: how can you think Ali can go down to middleweigh without problems, and even worse, be better than a middleweight? if he does that he would be too thin and without any strength.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by rge
                    The biggest problem is: how can you think Ali can go down to middleweigh without problems, and even worse, be better than a middleweight? if he does that he would be too thin and without any strength.
                    Agreed, i too find it hard to see Ali go down to middle weight without losing alot of strength and not having problems, i mean he was 230 u said so that means that if he was in as good of shape as u say about 100+ of that weight is muscle so i mean there ain't to much fat to lose so its gotta be muscle
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                    • #90
                      i also say that p4p sugar ray robinson is the greatest fighter. he was faster and more powerful than ali p4p.

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