"THE LIST" - list the top ten best boxers of ALL TIME

[IronDanHamza]

1. Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Sam Langford
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Benny Leonard
7. Bob Fitzsimmons
8. Willie Pep
9. Archie Moore
10. Roberto Duran

[UglyPug]

So where is Jimmy Mclarnin in your list? He has spanned as many Lbs as Manny Pacquaio.

He may not have won World Titles in all those weight classes because it's eaiser to win titles now but he went from Flyweight to Welterweight beating HOF'ers.



Why? Ezzard Charles being #7 is too low for him.

Ezzard Charles has one of the greatest and most stacked resumes of all time he is a minimum Top 10 ATG and absolutely without question greater than Manny Pacquaio.

McLarnin is up there. . . Hasn't accomplished what Manny has, and he doesn't have the skillset Manny has either. . .

What is your list?

[UglyPug]

1. Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Sam Langford
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Benny Leonard
7. Bob Fitzsimmons
8. Willie Pep
9. Archie Moore
10. Roberto Duran

Good list. . . I might replace Pacquiao with Archie Moore. . .

Pacquiao is definitely deserves to be mentioned as a top 15 fighter of all time, though.

[IronDanHamza]

McLarnin is up there. . . Hasn't accomplished what Manny has, and he doesn't have the skillset Manny has either. . .

How's that? Mclarnin's resume is utterly superior to Pacquaio's.

The '8 weight class' cop -out doesn't apply because Mclarnin covered as much weight excpet beat superior competition.

Mclarnin beat more HOF'ers than almost anyone in history.

He has accomplished absolutely what Pacquiao as and then some.

As for the skill set, I disagree.

He may not have the natural ability Pacquaio has but he certainly has a skill-set at the very least as good.

[IronDanHamza]

Good list. . . I might replace Pacquiao with Archie Moore. . .

Pacquiao is definitely deserves to be mentioned as a top 15 fighter of all time, though.

That would be blasphemy.

Archie Moore is greater than Manny Pacquaio and there is genuinely no argument.

I would say more around the 35-40 mark.

Not even close to the Top 15.

[SplitSecond]

if we had little footage of dela hoya and just saw his resume how high would he rank?

[IronDanHamza]

if we had little footage of dela hoya and just saw his resume how high would he rank?

I don't think it would make much of a difference, if any.

We would still have multiple Newspaper reports of his fights with Whitaker, Quartey and Sturm being controversial endings in his opponents favour as we would with his controversial loss's to Trinidad and Mosley 2.

So most would grasp what his resume should actually read.

Similar to Ortiz-Locche, very limited footage but most grasp that Ortiz was the righftul winner without it.

So personally I would still have him outside the Top 100.

[UglyPug]

that's the beauty of boxing. . . sometimes nobody is wrong. . . i stand by my opinion, and support it, as you stand by yours, and support it. . .

nobody will see eye to eye, and sometimes ranking will vary drastically. . .

[SCtrojansbaby]

I don't think it would make much of a difference, if any.

We would still have multiple Newspaper reports of his fights with Whitaker, Quartey and Sturm being controversial endings in his opponents favour as we would with his controversial loss's to Trinidad and Mosley 2.

So most would grasp what his resume should actually read.

Similar to Ortiz-Locche, very limited footage but most grasp that Ortiz was the righftul winner without it.

So personally I would still have him outside the Top 100.

How can you base your opinions on other peoples opinions?

[IronDanHamza]

that's the beauty of boxing. . . sometimes nobody is wrong. . . i stand by my opinion, and support it, as you stand by yours, and support it. . .

nobody will see eye to eye, and sometimes ranking will vary drastically. . .

I don't entirely agree.

I think there are times when no one is wrong I.e If people were debating say who is greater between two fighters around the same ranking criteria like Benny Leonard and Ezzard Charles.

Whereas, if someone were to try to argue that for example a great fighter like **** Tiger is greater than say Ray Leonard then they would be outright wrong. Despite the fact the argument is ovet two ATG's.

And Manny Pacquaio being greater than Archie Moore and a Top 15 ATG is one of those wrong moments.

There just isn't a reasonable or logical argument for it.