Benny Leonard vs Floyd Mmayweather-135

[MRBOOMER]

Lol very true!

In regards to Sweet Pea, Mayweather seems like he is equally great at walking a man down as he is at moving and pot shotting and his uncle Roger seemed to tag Whittaker with plenty of right hand leather, i think Floyd goes one better but hey everyone has their own opinion

That was a young Whitaker who was looking to end Roger and acting very careless at times if you take the Whitaker that rematched Jose Luis Ramirez or Nelson then I think he beats Floyd

[McGoorty]

I don't understand how you can think working with people who have supreme knowledge of the human body isn't going to make you a better athlete.

Because it's combat, not swimming. How does a better diet make one a warrior ??.... If anybody in today's world went 6 days a week to a nutritionist and a sports physcologist, and then you gave him a shield and a sword and zapped a real live Viking from the 10th century to face him in a fight to the death. All the science in the world won't stop the Modern guy from shi1tting his pants,... and then dying a horrible gruesome death a split-second later....... oops I forgot, if they were from a thousand years ago they'd be probably only able to move as fast as a tortoise......... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Again, I fart in your general direction,... and go and get yourself a psychiatrist.

[kendom]

I think Leonard can beat him, Leonard was a master of picking off jabs as shown in his highlight video, and its really hard to throw sustained combinations against someone when the punch you use to set it up is being blocked, Leonard's feinting skills would also cause a problem however Floyd at lightweight is fast, FAST but I think that Leonard can neutralize his speed advantage, just my opinion of course. In three fights I see Floyd winning one but Leonard winning the other two.

[The Surgeon]

That was a young Whitaker who was looking to end Roger and acting very careless at times if you take the Whitaker that rematched Jose Luis Ramirez or Nelson then I think he beats Floyd

Yeah i guess thats true, Pernell did get a bit wild, out of character for him. Still the best Whitaker vs the best Mayweather (floyd) i like Mayweather to edge it

[StarshipTrooper]

Yeah i guess thats true, Pernell did get a bit wild, out of character for him. Still the best Whitaker vs the best Mayweather (floyd) i like Mayweather to edge it

Whitaker all day long. This is a matchup where Mayweather doesn't even have a edge defensively.....and Whitaker generates a lot more offense then Floyd does.

Poet

[McGoorty]

Old film is unflattering

i don't think mayweather's faster because of the era in which he fights
i'm going off of film for that. and again, that's only an opinion Unflattering film quality means you don't get Leonard's true speed so it's hard to make a comparison

and on the competition, you're absolutely right, floyd is tested in his own right, but in leonards context he is relatively untested.

he has, however, faced very fast guys, very hard punchers, solid boxers, etc Undoubtedly, but they are at a lower level of ability..... Leonards contemporaries have a massive experience advantage.


floyd's chin isn't 100% explored, and its actually shown to be dentable (mosley rocked him seriously, but he's a huge puncher,) but i do believe floyd would balls up if he ever really needed to I don't question his courage and will to win. There's hurt, and then there's semi-Disneyland or full blown disneyland. It's just that he hasn't been tested to the extent where he's getting off the canvas for the third time in the evening and a bunged up and closed eye, and only half in control his senses. AND as an undefeated fighter, we don't know how he'd react after a KO loss or two.

the guy works too hard in the gym to just pack it in when he's in trouble.
and if for no other reason, losing and getting knocked out is bad for business and his wallet True, but also true for any decent professional to ever lace gloves on........ How many boxers ever intended to lose a fight anyway.


and on getting in the ring..
i don't get in there any more, but lets just say that when i was younger i got to the gym and didn't shy away from getting my butt kicked once in a while (i cant be showing up for my day job all busted up, lol)
i've also got family that boxed in the army and professionally going pretty far back

Yeah, you are a good poster,... I'm just here to keep you on your toes, you know I'd hate to see you lose your edge.

[The Surgeon]

Whitaker all day long. This is a matchup where Mayweather doesn't even have a edge defensively.....and Whitaker generates a lot more offense then Floyd does.

Poet

I just think neither guy is gonna be winning this big, its gonna be close with alot of missing. Whitaker threw more but i think Mayweather would step to him and try and back him up, look to land right hands on the southpaw

Floyd is a couple of inches taller and has a few more inches on Pea in reach too, not a huge factor but in these close run fights (as i see it) it can be the difference. He's also the puncher

[StarshipTrooper]

I just think neither guy is gonna be winning this big, its gonna be close with alot of missing. Whitaker threw more but i think Mayweather would step to him and try and back him up, look to land right hands on the southpaw

Floyd is a couple of inches taller and has a few more inches on Pea in reach too, not a huge factor but in these close run fights (as i see it) it can be the difference. He's also the puncher

The difference in height is irrelevant and the difference in reach is only three inches which is negligible. Whatever edge Floyd might have in power (and lets face it, even at Lightweight Floyd ISN'T a huge puncher) isn't going to be a factor here. Neither fighter is going to be able to seriously hurt the other. This is a matchup that ultimately is going to come down to who can score the most. Whitaker's huge edge in volume is going to be decisive even if you rate them even defensively (and I'd say Whitaker's defense was BETTER than Mayweather's).

Poet

[The Surgeon]

The difference in height is irrelevant and the difference in reach is only three inches which is negligible. Whatever edge Floyd might have in power (and lets face it, even at Lightweight Floyd ISN'T a huge puncher) isn't going to be a factor here. Neither fighter is going to be able to seriously hurt the other. This is a matchup that ultimately is going to come down to who can score the most. Whitaker's huge edge in volume is going to be decisive even if you rate them even defensively (and I'd say Whitaker's defense was BETTER than Mayweather's).

Poet

I do give Pea the slight edge in D, and agree Floyd while a decent puncher was no KO Lord even at LW. I just feel though that May score's the crisper more impressive shots over the course of the fight, enough to convince the judges he deserves the nod. I dont want to say any more than that as it would make it seem i dont rate Whitaker or that i feel STRONGLY either way, when in reality i do rate Pea and dont have a strong sense either way. Id pick Floyd for the reasons given but its Pea, he is hard to pick against with any real authority. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one poet

btw did u catch that Jim Driscoll poem i put up?

[StarshipTrooper]

I do give Pea the slight edge in D, and agree Floyd while a decent puncher was no KO Lord even at LW. I just feel though that May score's the crisper more impressive shots over the course of the fight, enough to convince the judges he deserves the nod. I dont want to say any more than that as it would make it seem i dont rate Whitaker or that i feel STRONGLY either way, when in reality i do rate Pea and dont have a strong sense either way. Id pick Floyd for the reasons given but its Pea, he is hard to pick against with any real authority. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one poet

btw did u catch that Jim Driscoll poem i put up?

What thread was it in?