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  • #31
    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
    Take a class on nutrition or sport medicine.
    Why don't you just give us some examples?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Greatest1942 View Post
      If...and thats a big if...Floyd was not matched teh same way LEonard was...did not fight so often and a whole lot...

      Now you hold the Ritchie fight against Leonard...man...Leonard fought almost half of Floyds total number of fight that year...it was his 7th or 8 th fight that year...if memory serves me right. He went on to fight a whole lot many times that year itself....so would Floyd have done much better under the same schedule?

      My point is these are all HOFers and with the schedule Leonard maintained its natural he will drop some to competitive fighters...put Floyd in that era , with Leonards schedule, he will drop more than Leonard I bet....They were not paper HOFers by the way..many will rank as the best Floyd beat...and some will beat a Floyd fighting his 8th fight in 3 months sure.

      And besides some of the loses you are naming against Leonard (with Boxwreck) were disputed there were lots of reports that gave it to Leonard also. Like you name Dundee, who was a better fighter than most Floyd faced...

      But here are some fight reports you wont find in boxwreck

      DUNDEE AND LEONARD FIGHT TEN TERRIFIC ROUNDS TO A DRAW DECISION.
      LIGHT WEIGHTS FIGHT A DRAW; Leonard Shows Knowlegde of the Finer Points; Dundee is Speed Merchant and Keeps at It; Fast Pace Set and Continued Throughout. Lightweights.

      Bear in mind he fought 14 days before and 18 days after this fight...

      You might say we can go by the results, but hey if we only see the results via the record books, then Floyd is greater than SRR since he never lost...Ali is worse than Wlad or Vitaly


      FRom the Video its apparent that Leonard was extremely skill full...He also had much more experience and was tried and tested....He will outfight Floyd and win a competitive bout

      first bold
      check the rest of my posts, Bro


      and you're really getting on me for using the boxrec? moving on

      second bold
      this just sounds childish to me. i hope you aren't being serious and trying to build a stance on something with logic (or reversed logic, whatever you want to call it. sarcasm,) like that
      i'm not being biased toward any era. i've seen plenty of film of both fighters. i'm pretty sure i've seen every mayweather fight available on film

      i don't think benny leonard would win a decision against floyd mayweather in a 15 round fight. i think floyd is all wrong for him.
      bigger, stronger, better boxer. i developed this opinion through my understanding of boxing. it might not be perfect, nobody's is.
      not some hackneyed idea that being undefeated makes floyd the greatest fighter of all time, or that modernity is an inherently greater-making quality

      i'm not some floyd fan boy, dude. ask around if you have to. i like to think i know a little bit about boxing.

      i pick plenty of WW's to beat floyd
      and a few LW's

      leonard is not one of them
      Last edited by New England; 10-01-2011, 09:59 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by New England View Post
        first bold
        check the rest of my posts, Bro


        and you're really getting on me for using the boxrec? moving on

        second bold
        this just sounds childish to me. i hope you aren't being serious and trying to build a stance on something with logic (or reversed logic, whatever you want to call it. sarcasm,) like that
        i'm not being biased toward any era. i've seen plenty of film of both fighters. i'm pretty sure i've seen every mayweather fight available on film

        i don't think benny leonard would win a decision against floyd mayweather in a 15 round fight. i think floyd is all wrong for him.
        bigger, stronger, better boxer. i developed this opinion through my understanding of boxing. it might not be perfect, nobody's is.
        not some hackneyed idea that being undefeated makes floyd the greatest fighter of all time, or that modernity is an inherently greater-making quality

        i'm not some floyd fan boy, dude. ask around if you have to. i like to think i know a little bit about boxing.

        i pick plenty of WW's to pick floyd
        and a few LW's

        leonard is not one of them
        I can say u are no fan boy and a solid poster. I happen to agree Mayweather would take this one.

        Out of interest who are the LW's u pick over PBF?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          Why don't you just give us some examples?
          I haven't taken any nutrition or sport medicine classes. But the most basic things are better medicine, better workouts, better equipment, better doctors etc etc. Manny Pacquiao works with people who have Masters degrees from UCLA I think its safe to say they might know a few more things about the human body than the cutman from rocky

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          • #35
            Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
            I can say u are no fan boy and a solid poster. I happen to agree Mayweather would take this one.

            Out of interest who are the LW's u pick over PBF?

            thank you champ

            duran.
            whitaker (i'd pick floyd at WW.)
            ike williams (though i'd have the least confidence in williams of all of the men listed.)
            old master gans.

            a few. perhaps i could dig a few more up with some thought. i don't want to put somebody down and then come to the realization later on that i think floyd could take him.


            ww's is a longer list. i put four up a few pages down in the section and i'll throw them back up here.

            hearns via knockout
            ray leonard decision
            burley decision
            robinson knockout
            Last edited by New England; 10-01-2011, 10:22 AM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
              floyd would dominate the sht outta him that's how
              Benny would dominate the **** out of Floyd.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                I haven't taken any nutrition or sport medicine classes. But the most basic things are better medicine, better workouts, better equipment, better doctors etc etc. Manny Pacquiao works with people who have Masters degrees from UCLA I think its safe to say they might know a few more things about the human body than the cutman from rocky



                Lol

                WHY?

                you want to know how ariza learned about boxing?

                a year long unpaid apprenticeship under roach

                the average jamoke coming out of UCLA with a BA knows more about the surface of the moon than he does boxing.

                if medicine helps out boxers it keep us from losing fighters like greb and flowers at young ages
                if you blow an ACL you used to be all done
                then ten years ago you were out for a year

                today you're looking at 6 months

                that helps out boxers who blow ACL's, or sustain injuries like robert guerrero recently with what i think was his rotator cuff
                but it does not guarantee you will have better boxers



                you're claiming that COLLEGES are responsible for "better boxers?"

                lol, man
                you really are clueless. i'm sorry to call you out.

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                • #38
                  "Colleges"(meaning knowledge of the human body) is responsible for better athletes.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                    Take a class on nutrition or sport medicine.
                    so then tell me what it is current fighters to with regards to nutrition and training (except for steroids) that past eras didn't?

                    It should be very easy to do for you.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by New England View Post
                      Lol

                      WHY?

                      you want to know how ariza learned about boxing?

                      a year long unpaid apprenticeship under roach

                      the average jamoke coming out of UCLA with a BA knows more about the surface of the moon than he does boxing.

                      if medicine helps out boxers it keep us from losing fighters like greb and flowers at young ages
                      if you blow an ACL you used to be all done
                      then ten years ago you were out for a year

                      today you're looking at 6 months

                      that helps out boxers who blow ACL's, or sustain injuries like robert guerrero recently with what i think was his rotator cuff
                      but it does not guarantee you will have better boxers



                      you're claiming that COLLEGES are responsible for "better boxers?"

                      lol, man
                      you really are clueless. i'm sorry to call you out.
                      Also detached retinas can be repaired now. It used to be a career killer.

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