Benny Leonard vs Floyd Mmayweather-135

[SBleeder]

Take a class on nutrition or sport medicine.

Only if you take a class on pre-1980s boxing.

[New England]

Only if you take a class on pre-1980s boxing.

lol post of the month


maybe post of the year

[gatorDelux]

lulz at condom boy

[McGoorty]

floyd hadn't really yet discovered his style at LW

but he did have some serious tools against guys that size.
the only guy who ever really gave him issues was castillo and he and leonard's styles and physical makeup are polar opposite.


i'd pick floyd to win a somewhat clear and comfy decision in a close fight. faster hands. crisper, more accurate puncher.
lesser fighters than mayweather were able to beat leonard.


the best means of beating mayweather is not how leonard fought (though his physical strength and punching power gets underrated. he was competitive at WW late in his career and often fought as a jr WW. he also had a lot of real knockouts with his opponent on the ground.)


i think floyd would win 10 rounds out of 15
maybe 9. something to that effect.

nice fight
maybe they'd do it twice and leonard might have a better shot the second go round

nobody is getting stopped or overmatched here.

You know I respect you, especially as you are a fighter (at least I think you said you were), but I don't know how you can say that May has faster or crisper punches than Benny, Benny may in fact be better in those departments. Some people think that leonard was a bit of a light puncher, he was no Lew Jenkins, but he had KO power. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I also think that there's no way he beats all of the Brittons, Dundee's, Ritchie's and all of those great fighters..... fact is that Floyd has never even met a LW in Owen Morans class, so of course he looks great against fighters who would be complete nobodies a hundred years ago. The notion that those guys were simply slower and not very athletic compared to todays boxers is simply not right. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Floyd has never lost a fight,....... but really, how many real battles has he been in ????... how many times has he been badly hurt ???.... a relevant question because all the greats are great because they can win, even when busted up and only seeing out of one eye..... I say he' is still untested against a truly great fighter,..... he's been in cruise mode 97 % of his career. We just don't know how he'll react when someone lands a bomb on him.... maybe he'll end up flat on his back. We do know however that Leonard also cruised a lot,...... but they were 20 Darby distance fights,... not Floyd's 12, and we also know that he couldn't cruise all the time because he did sometimes have a real war, and we know he had a lions heart (we don't know if Floyd does).... and we also know that benny could take very heavy blows when he had to. In fact there is no way Floyd's a top 10 LW.......... How many truly great fighters has Mayweather beaten ?...... some big names, but in my opinion they are not in the same league as a Britton or Gans... etc.

[New England]

You know I respect you, especially as you are a fighter (at least I think you said you were), but I don't know how you can say that May has faster or crisper punches than Benny, Benny may in fact be better in those departments. Some people think that leonard was a bit of a light puncher, he was no Lew Jenkins, but he had KO power. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I also think that there's no way he beats all of the Brittons, Dundee's, Ritchie's and all of those great fighters..... fact is that Floyd has never even met a LW in Owen Morans class, so of course he looks great against fighters who would be complete nobodies a hundred years ago. The notion that those guys were simply slower and not very athletic compared to todays boxers is simply not right. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Floyd has never lost a fight,....... but really, how many real battles has he been in ????... how many times has he been badly hurt ???.... a relevant question because all the greats are great because they can win, even when busted up and only seeing out of one eye..... I say he' is still untested against a truly great fighter,..... he's been in cruise mode 97 % of his career. We just don't know how he'll react when someone lands a bomb on him.... maybe he'll end up flat on his back. We do know however that Leonard also cruised a lot,...... but they were 20 Darby distance fights,... not Floyd's 12, and we also know that he couldn't cruise all the time because he did sometimes have a real war, and we know he had a lions heart (we don't know if Floyd does).... and we also know that benny could take very heavy blows when he had to. In fact there is no way Floyd's a top 10 LW.......... How many truly great fighters has Mayweather beaten ?...... some big names, but in my opinion they are not in the same league as a Britton or Gans... etc.

i don't think mayweather's faster because of the era in which he fights
i'm going off of film for that. and again, that's only an opinion

and on the competition, you're absolutely right, floyd is tested in his own right, but in leonards context he is relatively untested.

he has, however, faced very fast guys, very hard punchers, solid boxers, etc


floyd's chin isn't 100% explored, and its actually shown to be dentable (mosley rocked him seriously, but he's a huge puncher,) but i do believe floyd would balls up if he ever really needed to

the guy works too hard in the gym to just pack it in when he's in trouble.
and if for no other reason, losing and getting knocked out is bad for business and his wallet


and on getting in the ring..
i don't get in there any more, but lets just say that when i was younger i got to the gym and didn't shy away from getting my butt kicked once in a while (i cant be showing up for my day job all busted up, lol)
i've also got family that boxed in the army and professionally going pretty far back

[The Surgeon]

You know I respect you, especially as you are a fighter (at least I think you said you were), but I don't know how you can say that May has faster or crisper punches than Benny, Benny may in fact be better in those departments. Some people think that leonard was a bit of a light puncher, he was no Lew Jenkins, but he had KO power. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I also think that there's no way he beats all of the Brittons, Dundee's, Ritchie's and all of those great fighters..... fact is that Floyd has never even met a LW in Owen Morans class, so of course he looks great against fighters who would be complete nobodies a hundred years ago. The notion that those guys were simply slower and not very athletic compared to todays boxers is simply not right. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Floyd has never lost a fight,....... but really, how many real battles has he been in ????... how many times has he been badly hurt ???.... a relevant question because all the greats are great because they can win, even when busted up and only seeing out of one eye..... I say he' is still untested against a truly great fighter,..... he's been in cruise mode 97 % of his career. We just don't know how he'll react when someone lands a bomb on him.... maybe he'll end up flat on his back. We do know however that Leonard also cruised a lot,...... but they were 20 Darby distance fights,... not Floyd's 12, and we also know that he couldn't cruise all the time because he did sometimes have a real war, and we know he had a lions heart (we don't know if Floyd does).... and we also know that benny could take very heavy blows when he had to. In fact there is no way Floyd's a top 10 LW.......... How many truly great fighters has Mayweather beaten ?...... some big names, but in my opinion they are not in the same league as a Britton or Gans... etc.

One of the reasons i have a new found respect for Floyd is because of how he reacted in the Mosley fight when badly stunned in the second round. He showed he has some substance, some fighting guts and calm under pressure. He took the shots, rode out the storm and had Mosley on the back foot that Same damn round. He seems to react well to adversity and its his toughest fights he has shone in most. Im no fan boy and its totally True Shane was a dinosaur when he tangled with Mayweather but thats about as close to a losing as Floyds come. I dont think its fair to assume he CANT win against the odds or come through a war and adversity just because he HASN'T had to. The closest thing he has had to a war would be against Chop Chop and Burton and i think he did a great job out manning those guys.

[McGoorty]

Take a class on nutrition or sport medicine.

"I fart in your general direction"......... thanks for your help John Cleese.

[The Surgeon]

"I fart in your general direction"......... thanks for your help John Cleese.

Lol Now THATS Funny!

[MRBOOMER]

Idk I think benny takes it his foot work was hella clean it would make it tough for Floyd to get off pot shots against a mover Like that what you should ask is benny vs sweet pea

[McGoorty]

I haven't taken any nutrition or sport medicine classes. But the most basic things are better medicine, better workouts, better equipment, better doctors etc etc. Manny Pacquiao works with people who have Masters degrees from UCLA I think its safe to say they might know a few more things about the human body than the cutman from rocky

LOL... Now you tell us that you know nothing about the subject,... so why the f*** did you tell one of your superiors to find out about sports medicine. Seriously, stay out of hospitals, because you'd probably interrupt a brain surgeon during an operation, and give him your opinion on how it should be done. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I fart in your general direction".