Example of a Flicker Jab?

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lol you talking to new england like he's never seen a fighter pre 1990?


floyd mayweather would likely be a head and shoulder above absolutely everybody in terms of his boxing abilities outside of the few great boxers out of any generation


he's one of the best boxers to ever live
there is no era where a package [of skills] like that is commonplace
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sorry

No need to be sorry.

I never said that he is not one of the best boxers to ever live.

There is no era where that package is "common", but this is the only time in the history of the sport, where it is *unique*, and that's sad.

[studentofthegam]

No need to be sorry.

I never said that he is not one of the best boxers to ever live.

There is no era where that package is "common", but this is the only time in the history of the sport, where it is *unique*, and that's sad.

WOW. So Floyd's skills arent elite? He just got lucky and was born at the right time? Check yourself. Im sure you aint alone though.

[I am tyler]

WOW. So Floyd's skills arent elite? He just got lucky and was born at the right time? Check yourself. Im sure you aint alone though.

A flicker jab generally comes from the waist. Like Tommy Hearns. Muhammad Ali did it all the time.

[studentofthegam]

A flicker jab generally comes from the waist. Like Tommy Hearns. Muhammad Ali did it all the time.

I was thinking Sergio Martinez.

[I am tyler]

I was thinking Sergio Martinez.

Yeah Martinez too

[New England]

I was thinking Sergio Martinez.

martinez is right handed

he's got a very hard jab. it can snap a guy's head back (and he's recently started to implement it more often, especially against other southpaws.) you can hear that thing land from the back row of the building.


i don't know why anybody would think a "flicker" jab is simply a jab that comes from the waist or the low chest
there's a name for that
it's called an "upjab"



a flicker jab in my opinion is a jab that doesn't get stepped into properly and lacks the snap at the end.
it's just sort of a glove getting moved out there with the shoulder and pulled back. see shane mosley. see andre berto. the elbow usually isn't up, the knuckles usually aren't what's addressing the target, and there is basically no snap through the target. sometimes they can look like backhands or pawing.

the power on a jab is generated by stepping forward off of your back foot. guys with sound footwork and balance usually have good jabs (guys not named jermain taylor, who had a telephone pole jab and horrible footwork ^^ )

if you're jabbing properly you don't flick your jab out. you step into it and make it snap when it hits your target. ali had a ton of snap on his jab
and you know he was stepping into it (in his prime, his style was largely characterized by circling to his left. for an orthodox fighter this is the direction where your jab will lead you.)

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WOW. So Floyd's skills arent elite? He just got lucky and was born at the right time? Check yourself. Im sure you aint alone though.

can you actually read?

[Sugarj]

Jones vs Pazienza round two and also at the end of round four......very good examples of Roy Jones using a flicker jab.

[GrandpaBernard]

Jones vs Pazienza round two and also at the end of round four......very good examples of Roy Jones using a flicker jab.

so it's just something you pump out rapidly to annoy the other guy?

[Sugarj]

so it's just something you pump out rapidly to annoy the other guy?

I wouldn't use the word 'pump' because it implies that a fair amount of face is excerted. Jones's punches in that round were used to dazzle and annoy.

Flicker jabs can be used almost as feints, but contact can still be made with the opponent. They can be used almost as range finders (Lennox Lewis and Shane Mosley tended to paw with the lead hand to set up right counters, but I wouldn't classify these as flicker jabs). Likewise, Donny Lalonde's waving of the left hand in his fight with Ray Leonard is another bad example.

A good example would be in the 5th round of Nazeem Hamed's fight with Jose Badillo, just after he turned on the crazy showboating. Check out 1:35 - 1:30 of that round.